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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7852345" data-attributes="member: 6777737">Wait, why is that more complicated? If I know that the Fighter's "+1" sword is really a cursed -1 sword, I'm going to adjust everything by 2. Whether I know the AC hit or the total roll, I have to do the same math and adjust by 2. The only difference with THAC0 is that you might have to flip the sign on the bonus or penalty because descending armor class is stupid like that.Like I am fine with you saying you prefer getting the total roll instead of the AC hit. I know DMs who preferred that and it was about 50/50 versus DMs who wanted the AC hit. However, I don't see why one is more complicated than the other.I also never remember this issue coming up once 3e hit. It's solely a THAC0 and descending armor class issue.</blockquote>