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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abstraction" data-source="post: 1894980" data-attributes="member: 25995">I do have to admit that I cannot put myself as much into the D&D fantasy as I could when I was twelve. But then, I also cannot put myself into books, movies, comic books, toys or laying around imagining crazy stuff. It has nothing to do with ruleset.That magical feel that drew me into D&D had more to do with my first gamemasters and with my youthful need to play than it had to do with the rulebooks. At that, I recall that our very earliest games were just terribly hack-n-slash. When we got tired of mindless combat, we finally started real world-building and got hooked into more complex storylines, more rounded characters. Same as the hack-n-slash newbies of today will eventually mature. It all has everything to do with DM, nothing to do with rules. If the rules of 3E do anything, they make it easier to be a good DM because everything is so clear that there doesn't need to be any bickering.By the way, I started with Basic in 1980, so I think I can consider myself a grognard.</blockquote>