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<blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 1896821" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p>Well, I'm not saying D&D 3rd ed is perfect but it's miles better than previous editions for me. </p><p></p><p>Does it get boring sometimes knowing that there's a rule to cover everything? Yes, it can. I mean contrasting someone running up a table, kicking some dude in the check and pushing off and stabbing someone else on the other side of the room is going to play out 100% differently in 1st and 2nd ed of AD&D than in 3rd ed (mainly because in 3rd ed that would be too many actions... okay, make a Jump or Tumble DC... Now Make your Attack roll for this round on the kick...) Even that though, some GMs will still run their games more like Exalted and allow it all and perhaps even give a good bonus for role playing.</p><p></p><p>I feel that these posts of rules and details are all smoke and mirrors. Perhaps it's because I've been gaming since the original Marvel Super Heros Game came out. Perhaps it's because I'm imaganative. Perhaps it's because I'm happy with the people I game with (usually!). I just don't see these issues as being 'real'.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes I wonder just how much of this crap is nostalgia. How much of it is being young and the newness of it all. I'm not saying that this is 100% true. After all, I have a huge collection of older materail I still reference, but I don't sit there and hold something like the Best of Dragon Vol 1 with it's poor layout and graphic design next to Midnight and go, "Man, Midnight sucks. What's wrong with these people." Times change, taste change and people change. How long 3rd ed will stand the test of time will be interesting to watch and speculate on. </p><p></p><p>In the end, I guess I'm just tired of the "I feel that rules heavy games..." blah blah blah... It's not like Hero and GURPS haven't been outdoing D&D at details for years and years now... And heck, without 3rd ed, we wouldn't have Conan, Midnight, Mutants & Masterminds, and the soon to be released Black Company.</p><p></p><p>Long live d20!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeGKushner, post: 1896821, member: 1129"] Well, I'm not saying D&D 3rd ed is perfect but it's miles better than previous editions for me. Does it get boring sometimes knowing that there's a rule to cover everything? Yes, it can. I mean contrasting someone running up a table, kicking some dude in the check and pushing off and stabbing someone else on the other side of the room is going to play out 100% differently in 1st and 2nd ed of AD&D than in 3rd ed (mainly because in 3rd ed that would be too many actions... okay, make a Jump or Tumble DC... Now Make your Attack roll for this round on the kick...) Even that though, some GMs will still run their games more like Exalted and allow it all and perhaps even give a good bonus for role playing. I feel that these posts of rules and details are all smoke and mirrors. Perhaps it's because I've been gaming since the original Marvel Super Heros Game came out. Perhaps it's because I'm imaganative. Perhaps it's because I'm happy with the people I game with (usually!). I just don't see these issues as being 'real'. Sometimes I wonder just how much of this crap is nostalgia. How much of it is being young and the newness of it all. I'm not saying that this is 100% true. After all, I have a huge collection of older materail I still reference, but I don't sit there and hold something like the Best of Dragon Vol 1 with it's poor layout and graphic design next to Midnight and go, "Man, Midnight sucks. What's wrong with these people." Times change, taste change and people change. How long 3rd ed will stand the test of time will be interesting to watch and speculate on. In the end, I guess I'm just tired of the "I feel that rules heavy games..." blah blah blah... It's not like Hero and GURPS haven't been outdoing D&D at details for years and years now... And heck, without 3rd ed, we wouldn't have Conan, Midnight, Mutants & Masterminds, and the soon to be released Black Company. Long live d20! [/QUOTE]
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