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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Virel" data-source="post: 1901742" data-attributes="member: 24633">3e and the test of time?3e lasted four years before being supersecded by 3.51st ed AD&D lasted over ten years before being superceded by 2nd ed AD&D which also lasted around ten years.3e has already failed the test of time, compared to it's forerunners.3e is OOP just like 1st ed AD&D.I play both and it doesn't bother me in the least that both are OOP.I think the real question is will the d20 mechanic stand the test of time. I think it will hold up very well.As for 3.5e, I'll wait and pick up that stuff when it starts showing up in used book stores and ebay dirt cheap, like the 3e and 1st ed AD&D stuff is. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I like 3e and AD&D for different reasons. I fail to understand why there is conflict between AD&D fans and many 3e fans, both are D&D and both are fun with the right group and a good DM.When I play in the 3e game, I do tend to think about the 1st ed AD&D Players Handbook and how it describes monks. This inspires my play. I have the 3e stuff and 3e OA and it's turgid prose is less than inspiring, however it cures insomina.I really like the 3e changes in the monk, decent hit dice and not having to fight another monk for every level beyond 7th are all good changes IMO.Yet, I've re-read the AD&D book section on the monk many more times since I started playing a 3e monk, than I have the 3e section on the monk...</blockquote>

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