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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Virel" data-source="post: 1906778" data-attributes="member: 24633">Being a wargamer first, I pretty much despised the orginal D&D due to the sloppy rule set. AD&D was better but not really a nice tight rule set like a wargame. 2nd AD&D has parts worth stealing for 1st AD&D but is a lame game if one drifts away from the core books. Late 2nd ed = puke3e's rule set while dry and boring for the most part, reads nice and tight more like a wargame than other versions of the game. This is one thing I like about 3e, it calls out to my inner wargamer.I was surprised, that in my 1st session of 3e, I was pointing out some finer points about flanking to some of the experienced players. One seemed to think I was lying about not having played 3e until my wargaming background was explained.Having played Squad Leader, yes sometimes 3e combat reminds me of SL or Cross of Iron. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> Yet, I have learned to appreciate 1st ed AD&D flexability, style and flavor...so I steal choice bits from 3e for my 1st ed AD&D game!</blockquote>