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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 506291" data-attributes="member: 518">You CAN do modernized armor and weapons that have a fantasy look, and still not look "dungeon-punk" and different just to be different.Check out the LOTR movies.  Perfect example of cool without being over the top. Yep the orcs are pierced..but it's done in a way that doesn't make it look "cool"..it's done in a way where you say "ewww". IN fact the piercings are more like staples.They have some spikes and pointy stuff on the armor too, but it's not so obviously deviant from real world equivalents to look "unrealistic" "unbelievable". Check out Decipher's LOTR RPG. There are some great close-up still shots of the armor and weapons of men, elves, and orcs. Great stuff. And some of it looks very similar to the stuff Bill Willingham and Jeff Dee were doing when they came into the TSR fold in the late 70's/early 80's prior to the Elmore, Easley, and Holloway years. In fact P.J. nailed  the images of Orcs I've always had bopping arund in my head since I was a kid.  The only thing I think that could have been to make them absolutely perfect was to have the skin colors darker..almost black, as Tolkien described them.At any rate, Art is very subjective. Has been sice the first guy (or gal) drew a line in the dirt with a stick or his finger or... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />IMO, of course.</blockquote>

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