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<blockquote data-quote="Fenros" data-source="post: 510628" data-attributes="member: 975"><p>Mercule wrote: </p><p></p><p>Gothmog wrote: </p><p></p><p>I'm 30 years old.</p><p></p><p>I'm a big fan of Anime and Manga, but I'm not going to come in here and take offense because someone here doesn't like it. Everyone has their own tastes in art. If you don't like Anime/Manga style art then that's cool.</p><p></p><p>But, I just want to clarify something. Judging by your above statements I assume you don't like how Anime or Manga styles do fantasy costume design. Am I right?</p><p></p><p>Just to double check, you consider the pictures here from "Valkyrie Profile" & "Record of Lodoss War" to be bad?</p><p></p><p>Link: <a href="http://www.anime-genesis.com/pics/html/lodoss/lodoss49.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.anime-genesis.com/pics/html/lodoss/lodoss49.shtml</a></p><p></p><p>Link:<a href="http://www.altogames.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl?/v/valkyrie-profile/g-000095-w1-000689.jpg,0,0,0" target="_blank">http://www.altogames.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl?/v/valkyrie-profile/g-000095-w1-000689.jpg,0,0,0</a></p><p></p><p>I personally think they're pretty cool looking. But that's me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p>I enjoy the art of many Japanese & French artists. They've offered some really nice fantasy art in my opinion. I think I understand why you say some of the 3e art has a bit of Anime mixed in it. But I find it off the mark. I see none of the elements that make Anime art what it is in the styles of the WotC artists. If anything, I'd say the designs were more influenced by the BROM approach to costuming than the Anime approach.</p><p></p><p>As far as known artists out here, I like Keith Parkinson, Micheal Whelan, Alan Lee, and Frank Frazetta.</p><p></p><p>My least favorites are Clyde Caldwell, Boris Vallejo, and Darrel Sweet (who's covers on the Thomas Covenant books were awesome, but his WoT stuff is really, really.....not good at all).<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p></p><p>Someone mentioned the beauty behind the LotR movie designs. I agree. But then, there you have professional costume designers doing that. RPG artists don't normally have any fashion design education in their background. Also, most male artists (I know there's some female ones too, but most in the RPG illustration world are male it seems) probably don't think that taking the fashion illustration class in art college to be 'something they can use'. But it makes a big difference. Learning how clothes are cut and function from modern day back to medieval times is very helpful indeed. Again, look at LotR. Look at the great costumes. Boromir's outfit in particular is a favorite of mine.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, I find the 3e art to be pretty good most of the time. Way better than 1e and 2e in my opinion. The best being from the whole Forgotten Realms line of books. I really wish the core books had the same level of artistic design put into them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenros, post: 510628, member: 975"] Mercule wrote: Gothmog wrote: I'm 30 years old. I'm a big fan of Anime and Manga, but I'm not going to come in here and take offense because someone here doesn't like it. Everyone has their own tastes in art. If you don't like Anime/Manga style art then that's cool. But, I just want to clarify something. Judging by your above statements I assume you don't like how Anime or Manga styles do fantasy costume design. Am I right? Just to double check, you consider the pictures here from "Valkyrie Profile" & "Record of Lodoss War" to be bad? Link: [url]http://www.anime-genesis.com/pics/html/lodoss/lodoss49.shtml[/url] Link:[url]http://www.altogames.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl?/v/valkyrie-profile/g-000095-w1-000689.jpg,0,0,0[/url] I personally think they're pretty cool looking. But that's me. :D I enjoy the art of many Japanese & French artists. They've offered some really nice fantasy art in my opinion. I think I understand why you say some of the 3e art has a bit of Anime mixed in it. But I find it off the mark. I see none of the elements that make Anime art what it is in the styles of the WotC artists. If anything, I'd say the designs were more influenced by the BROM approach to costuming than the Anime approach. As far as known artists out here, I like Keith Parkinson, Micheal Whelan, Alan Lee, and Frank Frazetta. My least favorites are Clyde Caldwell, Boris Vallejo, and Darrel Sweet (who's covers on the Thomas Covenant books were awesome, but his WoT stuff is really, really.....not good at all).:( Someone mentioned the beauty behind the LotR movie designs. I agree. But then, there you have professional costume designers doing that. RPG artists don't normally have any fashion design education in their background. Also, most male artists (I know there's some female ones too, but most in the RPG illustration world are male it seems) probably don't think that taking the fashion illustration class in art college to be 'something they can use'. But it makes a big difference. Learning how clothes are cut and function from modern day back to medieval times is very helpful indeed. Again, look at LotR. Look at the great costumes. Boromir's outfit in particular is a favorite of mine. Regardless, I find the 3e art to be pretty good most of the time. Way better than 1e and 2e in my opinion. The best being from the whole Forgotten Realms line of books. I really wish the core books had the same level of artistic design put into them. [/QUOTE]
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