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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 102495" data-attributes="member: 2238"><p><strong>Conversion Doc clarifications (sorry, kind of long)</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have read your documents before and know you to be a capable and clear writer. I assume that it lost a lot in the "translation." Whatever the intent I think it needs to be made clearer. This will solve a lot of problems down the road. I guess this is the intention, since it does have a version number.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And this same content can come from other places than ESDs, namely print versions bought on ebay or sequestered since the late 80's.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right and this needs to be taken care of, both for the sake of WotC and for the sake of the conversion community.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. I agree with this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All things considered I agree that WotC has been quite gracious with their IP. We would not have seen this with TSR.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I completely agree with this. People often think that if a file is in electronic form, its free. They do not understand that someone still owns that IP. The only difference is that it can more easily be moved around. </p><p></p><p>If the document had stated the above just as you have stated it, I do not think we would be having this discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No they really are not, but apparently some are confused between the ideas of a conversion document and a product. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I mean by that is it does not address the way people might reference somthing. If a conversion document converts in whole or in part. By in whole I mean someone has gone and converted a whole product, like a module. By in part I mean someone has gone and converted a piece of a product, like an individual monster or magic item. That is what the document needs to address. This ammounts to adding the words "in whole or in part" to a bunch of lines in the document.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see this. The presence of the ESD program makes it easier for someone to bundle the conversion document with the electronic product (through confusion or disreguard) and distribute it online. That is obviously a big no, no. But that seems to be the only relation. You are using the OGL as a way for converters to save their skinin light of this situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, I was not disputing the policy, I was saying that the document does not make clear the deliniation between the concept of conversion distribution, and the concept of distribution of ESDs in the same way that you have stated on this board. What I think WotC is saying is: </p><p></p><p>You can write conversion documents as long as they do not include any original IP that is not in the SRD. If you must convert a monster change its name and release it under the OGL. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think adding a FAQ list to the document would be a good thing, especially after it is rewritten to be clearer on the issues. This is not a daunting task and can easily be done by reading this board.</p><p></p><p>Still no one has answered the question of the product reference. In a conversion document can someone say </p><p></p><p>Stinger (hp: 30), See <u>MONSTER COMPENDIUM: Monsters of Faerun</u> pp. 80-81.</p><p></p><p>in a conversion document? It seems to me that such a reference would be alright. The only problem that I might see with it is that you are using a refernce to a non-SRD source in a document that is coverd by the OGL. Could you or someone in the know clarify this? Being able to do this makes conversion writing a lot easier.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very much so, thank you.</p><p></p><p>Aaron Webb</p><p>Seattle WA</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jester47, post: 102495, member: 2238"] [b]Conversion Doc clarifications (sorry, kind of long)[/b] I have read your documents before and know you to be a capable and clear writer. I assume that it lost a lot in the "translation." Whatever the intent I think it needs to be made clearer. This will solve a lot of problems down the road. I guess this is the intention, since it does have a version number. [B][/B] And this same content can come from other places than ESDs, namely print versions bought on ebay or sequestered since the late 80's. [B][/B] Yes, I agree. [B][/B] Right and this needs to be taken care of, both for the sake of WotC and for the sake of the conversion community. [B][/B] Right. I agree with this. [B][/B] All things considered I agree that WotC has been quite gracious with their IP. We would not have seen this with TSR. [B][/B] I completely agree with this. People often think that if a file is in electronic form, its free. They do not understand that someone still owns that IP. The only difference is that it can more easily be moved around. If the document had stated the above just as you have stated it, I do not think we would be having this discussion. [B][/B] No they really are not, but apparently some are confused between the ideas of a conversion document and a product. [B][/B] What I mean by that is it does not address the way people might reference somthing. If a conversion document converts in whole or in part. By in whole I mean someone has gone and converted a whole product, like a module. By in part I mean someone has gone and converted a piece of a product, like an individual monster or magic item. That is what the document needs to address. This ammounts to adding the words "in whole or in part" to a bunch of lines in the document. [B][/B] I can see this. The presence of the ESD program makes it easier for someone to bundle the conversion document with the electronic product (through confusion or disreguard) and distribute it online. That is obviously a big no, no. But that seems to be the only relation. You are using the OGL as a way for converters to save their skinin light of this situation. [B][/B] Right, I was not disputing the policy, I was saying that the document does not make clear the deliniation between the concept of conversion distribution, and the concept of distribution of ESDs in the same way that you have stated on this board. What I think WotC is saying is: You can write conversion documents as long as they do not include any original IP that is not in the SRD. If you must convert a monster change its name and release it under the OGL. [B][/B] I think adding a FAQ list to the document would be a good thing, especially after it is rewritten to be clearer on the issues. This is not a daunting task and can easily be done by reading this board. Still no one has answered the question of the product reference. In a conversion document can someone say Stinger (hp: 30), See [U]MONSTER COMPENDIUM: Monsters of Faerun[/U] pp. 80-81. in a conversion document? It seems to me that such a reference would be alright. The only problem that I might see with it is that you are using a refernce to a non-SRD source in a document that is coverd by the OGL. Could you or someone in the know clarify this? Being able to do this makes conversion writing a lot easier. Very much so, thank you. Aaron Webb Seattle WA [/QUOTE]
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