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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sundragon2012" data-source="post: 2548178" data-attributes="member: 7624">I agree.This empower players thing, it seems to be one thing to designers and another to players.For designers it is making a tight rules set that gives players greater options and frees DMs from having to adjudicate on the fly. I'm all for the former but have some issue with the latter. The latter seems to be a controversial issue but that isn't the topic of this thread.Some players seem to think that empowering the players means empowering them to overpower or demand something of the DM. Silly, silly players who think like this. Any DM who is cowed into this childish DM vs. Player mindset needs to have his DM priviledges revoked and taken to a re-education camp. I am just joking of course, but the only type of DM I see being railroaded by his players is a new DM. It can be hard to say no....but trust me it is an art form unto itself.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Unless you are new at DMing, it is your fault as DM if your players believe that can override your decisions with either their own opinions or the written words of the core, or any other, books.I saw the comment that if the DM doesn't tow the line he can be replaced and though in my time I have seen one or two DMs who needed to stop DMing, I say "go for it!" If you really think that though you have never DMed before you can do a better job than me feel free to try.When I was a teenager my brother was pissed off and bought the FR grey boxed set intending to DM....meaning intending to realize any fantasy that my annoying consistancy prevented. He ran 2 sessions then handed the reigns back over to me. I knew it wouldn't take long and my other players played along for laughs.Chris</blockquote>

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