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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 2583301" data-attributes="member: 18280">Hussar, I submit that KM's answer clearly shows that my questions were not a straw man:The DM can say &quot;No&quot; whenever the players let him.This is very, very different from your reply:As to which RAW, I would answer simply - the RAW FOR THAT SETTING.&nbsp; I would think that that's obvious.&nbsp; If I'm playing an Eberron game, then Eberron material is likely to be included.&nbsp; Anything else is purely at the DM's discretion.&nbsp; Actually, anything is at the DM's discretion, but, at least Eberron material is more likely to be included.&nbsp; Maybe I've been lucky.&nbsp; I've never seen players try anything remotely like this.&nbsp; In fact, every game I see these days specifies material at the outset.&nbsp; This would mean to me that the RAW for each particular campaign is set by the DM.&nbsp; Certainly a player can ask, but, then again, there's nothing wrong with saying no.&nbsp; Particularly if the RAW for that setting supports that answer.I think there's a couple of definitions of RAW going on here and that's where the problem lies.&nbsp; To me, RAW is defined by setting.&nbsp; That a particlar book has been written does not make it apply to a particular campaign.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 2583301, member: 18280"] Hussar, I submit that KM's answer clearly shows that my questions were not a straw man: [SIZE=4][B][COLOR=Red]The DM can say "No" whenever the players let him.[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] This is very, very different from your reply: [COLOR=Red][INDENT]As to which RAW, I would answer simply - the RAW FOR THAT SETTING. I would think that that's obvious. If I'm playing an Eberron game, then Eberron material is likely to be included. Anything else is purely at the DM's discretion. Actually, anything is at the DM's discretion, but, at least Eberron material is more likely to be included. Maybe I've been lucky. I've never seen players try anything remotely like this. In fact, every game I see these days specifies material at the outset. This would mean to me that the RAW for each particular campaign is set by the DM. Certainly a player can ask, but, then again, there's nothing wrong with saying no. Particularly if the RAW for that setting supports that answer. I think there's a couple of definitions of RAW going on here and that's where the problem lies. To me, RAW is defined by setting. That a particlar book has been written does not make it apply to a particular campaign.[/INDENT][/COLOR] RC [/QUOTE]

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