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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 2583555" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Me too, and I covered this:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Orange">Certainly, if this DM wants these players to play in his game, then he can only get what he wants by presenting something they are interested in. Conversely, if a player wants to play in a game run by this DM, then that player has to play in a game that this DM is running. There is no obligation on either side.</span></p><p></p><p>Certainly, you don't imagine that your friends have an obligation to entertain you. Nor do you have an obligation to entertain your friends. If a game isn't fun, don't play it. Go camping or something instead.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Orange">It is only when an obligation is imposed that selfishness enters the equation.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Orange"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Orange">In other words, if I bake chocolate chip cookies, and I offer one to you, I am not selfish because you don't like chocolate chip cookies. If I bake chocolate chip cookies, and I know you don't like them, so I offer them to someone else, I am still not selfish. If you, however, demand that I consult you prior to baking cookies, you are selfish.</span></p><p></p><p>You can make a game world that is entirely co-operative, with no DM at all if you like. Vote what the scenery is. Vote what kind of monsters you encounter. Or make up some kind of random system to determine these things. When a question comes up, vote.</p><p></p><p>What you do not have is the ability to obligate someone else to participate in a game in a way which makes them unhappy. Your friends will forgive you for voting with your feet, if they are your friends.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 2583555, member: 18280"] Me too, and I covered this: [INDENT][COLOR=Orange]Certainly, if this DM wants these players to play in his game, then he can only get what he wants by presenting something they are interested in. Conversely, if a player wants to play in a game run by this DM, then that player has to play in a game that this DM is running. There is no obligation on either side.[/COLOR][/INDENT] Certainly, you don't imagine that your friends have an obligation to entertain you. Nor do you have an obligation to entertain your friends. If a game isn't fun, don't play it. Go camping or something instead. [INDENT][COLOR=Orange]It is only when an obligation is imposed that selfishness enters the equation. In other words, if I bake chocolate chip cookies, and I offer one to you, I am not selfish because you don't like chocolate chip cookies. If I bake chocolate chip cookies, and I know you don't like them, so I offer them to someone else, I am still not selfish. If you, however, demand that I consult you prior to baking cookies, you are selfish.[/COLOR][/INDENT] You can make a game world that is entirely co-operative, with no DM at all if you like. Vote what the scenery is. Vote what kind of monsters you encounter. Or make up some kind of random system to determine these things. When a question comes up, vote. What you do not have is the ability to obligate someone else to participate in a game in a way which makes them unhappy. Your friends will forgive you for voting with your feet, if they are your friends. RC [/QUOTE]
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