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<blockquote data-quote="drdevoid" data-source="post: 889760" data-attributes="member: 5356"><p>I played a 3E Ranger as my first character. It was fun, but something bothered me about it. Most gamers have their own peeve regarding the ranger, but I don't know if I've ever seen this one before. </p><p></p><p>Now I know it's on the way out, but I've always wanted to know why 3E Rangers don't get Cure Light Wounds (henceforth abbreviated to CLW) at their first spell level.</p><p></p><p>THE FACTS:</p><p></p><p>Druids and Paladins get CLW at 1st spell level and CMW at 3rd. </p><p></p><p>Clerics get CLW at 1st and CMW at 2nd. </p><p></p><p>Rangers get CLW at 2nd and CMW at 3rd.</p><p></p><p>MY ASSERTION:</p><p></p><p>As a character that has heal as a class skill I would think they should mirror the paladin in this regard. After all, in terms of healing ability, the ranger won't overshadow the paladin; the paladin (possible exception being an extremely high charisma + high wisdom paladin) shouldn't overshadow the Druid; the druid can't overshadow the Cleric. Am I wrong here?</p><p></p><p>Is it asking too much to mirror the Druid and Paladin in this respect?</p><p></p><p>Is the whole idea here that since the paladin doesn't mirror the cleric progression, so should the ranger not mirror the druid progression? Is this a valid point as the relative value of 1 CLW at 8th (earliest) or 10th (latest) is somewhat small?</p><p></p><p>Just curious thanks in advance for your feedback.</p><p></p><p>-Joe</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drdevoid, post: 889760, member: 5356"] I played a 3E Ranger as my first character. It was fun, but something bothered me about it. Most gamers have their own peeve regarding the ranger, but I don't know if I've ever seen this one before. Now I know it's on the way out, but I've always wanted to know why 3E Rangers don't get Cure Light Wounds (henceforth abbreviated to CLW) at their first spell level. THE FACTS: Druids and Paladins get CLW at 1st spell level and CMW at 3rd. Clerics get CLW at 1st and CMW at 2nd. Rangers get CLW at 2nd and CMW at 3rd. MY ASSERTION: As a character that has heal as a class skill I would think they should mirror the paladin in this regard. After all, in terms of healing ability, the ranger won't overshadow the paladin; the paladin (possible exception being an extremely high charisma + high wisdom paladin) shouldn't overshadow the Druid; the druid can't overshadow the Cleric. Am I wrong here? Is it asking too much to mirror the Druid and Paladin in this respect? Is the whole idea here that since the paladin doesn't mirror the cleric progression, so should the ranger not mirror the druid progression? Is this a valid point as the relative value of 1 CLW at 8th (earliest) or 10th (latest) is somewhat small? Just curious thanks in advance for your feedback. -Joe [/QUOTE]
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