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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3711053" data-attributes="member: 15538">We're not talking about syllogisms here. It's a matter of realizing what belief systems it takes to believe something is both the best and also always getting better. I'm going to offer one example that may lend insight, and then I'm done with this tangent. Fact is, doublethink is sneaky stuff, and we do it all the time.Let's imagine you're a Ford salesman. You sell Fords all day. Fords are, goshdarnit, the best vehicles on the road for what they were designed for. Now let's say you end up switching to another dealership, and now you're a Toyota dealer. Well, that's fine with you, because Toyotas are the best cars on the market.Of course, there is no contradiction if you are simply lying. But to effectively lie, you have to lie to yourself. That's doublethink. Because presumably the day you switch jobs, you can't simultaneously believe Toyotas and Fords are both the best. Even if you hedge by saying they are best at a particular thing, the bottom line is that when you talk about each one individually, it is the best. So, once 4e is here, you will have no cause to feel dissatisfaction, because 4e is the best. But once 5e rolls around, it will fix everything about 4e that you were dissatisfied with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 3711053, member: 15538"] We're not talking about syllogisms here. It's a matter of realizing what belief systems it takes to believe something is both the best and also always getting better. I'm going to offer one example that may lend insight, and then I'm done with this tangent. Fact is, doublethink is sneaky stuff, and we do it all the time. Let's imagine you're a Ford salesman. You sell Fords all day. Fords are, goshdarnit, the best vehicles on the road for what they were designed for. Now let's say you end up switching to another dealership, and now you're a Toyota dealer. Well, that's fine with you, because Toyotas are the best cars on the market. Of course, there is no contradiction if you are simply lying. But to effectively lie, you have to lie to yourself. That's doublethink. Because presumably the day you switch jobs, you can't simultaneously believe Toyotas and Fords are [i]both[/i] the best. Even if you hedge by saying they are best at a particular thing, the bottom line is that when you talk about each one individually, it is the [i]best[/i]. So, once 4e is here, you will have no cause to feel dissatisfaction, because 4e is the [i]best[/i]. But once 5e rolls around, it will fix everything about 4e that you were dissatisfied with. [/QUOTE]

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