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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6081666" data-attributes="member: 463">Thanks Psi. Here are my baseline Gray Maiden and Gray Maiden Corporal stats below. One challenge I faced was that in Book 2 of Crimson Throne, four Gray Maidens are expected to be a challenge to four 4th-5th level 3e PCs; and are statted as 3e Fighter-2.  Four fifth level standard monsters won't be much of a challenge for five fifth level 4e PCs. Also, I want the Maidens to feel tough and threatening, they are supposed to be elite warriors. This ties in a bit to the Armour Class issue - even a 1st level PC with plate and shield is AC 20; if heavily armoured monsters have a lower-than-possible AC it doesn't feel right. Another issue is that I want these stats to remain useable for facing PCs across several levels, roughly 4th through 8th or 9th, with increased numbers, higher level leaders etc.Also this is not a trash mob or throwaway encounter (which I might 'minionise' or remove entirely for 4e), it's a potentially pivotal moment & I don't mind it taking awhile; also it would be ok for the Maidens to retreat rather than fight to the death. So my thinking is that the four 3e F2 become three soldier-6 and one soldier-7 leader; 1050 XP, EL5: Gray Maiden    Level 6 Soldier Medium natural humanoid (human)    XP 250 HP 69; Bloodied 35 AC 23; Fortitude 16; Reflex 18; Will 18 Speed 5    Initiative +7 Perception +5 Standard Actions m Broadsword (weapon) • At-Will Attack: +11 vs. AC Hit: 1d10 + 8 damage, and the target is marked until the end of the Maiden's next turn. M Imposing Smite (weapon) • Recharge 5 6 Attack: +11 vs. AC Hit: 2d10 + 8 damage, and an S or M target is pushed 1 square and knocked prone. . Triggered Actions Fanatic (weapon) Trigger: The Gray Maiden drops to 0 hp. Effect: The Gray Maiden makes a melee basic attack. Combat Supremacy • At-Will the maiden Trigger: An adjacent marked target Shifts or makes an attack not including the Grey Maiden. . Effect (Immediate Interrupt): She makes a Broadsword attack vs the marked target. Skills Intimidate +11, Athletics +12, Endurance +9 Str 18 (+7)    Dex 15 (+5)    Wis 14 (+5) Con 13 (+4)    Int 12 (+4)    Cha 16 (+6) Alignment evil Languages Common Equipment plate armor, heavy shield, broadswordHere's my Gray Maiden Corporal:Gray Maiden Corporal    Level 7 Soldier (Leader) Medium natural humanoid (human)    XP 300 HP 77; Bloodied 39 AC 23; Fortitude 17; Reflex 19; Will 20 Speed 5    Initiative +7 Perception +5 Standard Actions m Broadsword (weapon) • At-Will Attack: +12 vs. AC Hit: 1d10 + 9 damage, and the target is marked until the end of the Maiden's next turn. M Imposing Smite (weapon) • Recharge 5 6 Attack: +12 vs. AC Hit: 2d10 + 9 damage, and an S or M target is pushed 1 square and knocked prone. . "Take them down!" • At-Will Effect: (1 ally within 10, of a lower level than the Corporal.); The ally can shift 1 square and make a melee basic attack as a free action with a +2 bonus on the attack. Move Actions "Move it, Sister!" • At-Will Effect: (1 ally within 10.); The ally can Shift 3 squares as a free action. Triggered Actions Fanatic (weapon) Trigger: She falls to 0 hp. Effect: The Gray Maiden makes a melee basic attack. Combat Supremacy • At-Will Trigger: Marked enemy shifts or makes an attack not including the Grey Maiden. Effect (Immediate Interrupt): She makes a Broadsword attack vs the marked target. Skills Intimidate +12, Athletics +12, Endurance +9 Str 18 (+7)    Dex 15 (+5)    Wis 14 (+5) Con 13 (+4)    Int 12 (+4)    Cha 19 (+7) Alignment evil Languages Common Equipment plate armor, heavy shield, broadswordBy contrast, in Book 6 the PCs, now around 14th level, likely assault Castle Korvosa and face numerous crack Gray Maiden bodyguards. In 3e these are statted as Fighter-8; I have made them 12th level Soldiers; which should give a similar effect - they remain threatening in numbers, but the PCs feel superior to even these elite troops. Again this is an important scene, and the castle assault should run as pretty much a single encounter, so it's less of an issue that the battle may take awhile. An encounter would  be ca 8 of these (5600 XP, EL 14), with favourable terrain, but I'll need to work on leaders etc. I think it's important for the mystique of the Maidens (and my minis budget!) that I don't Minionise them, though.Current draft:Gray Maiden Throneguard    Level 12 Soldier Medium natural humanoid (human)    XP 700 HP 120; Bloodied 60 AC 28; Fortitude 23; Reflex 25; Will 24 Speed 5    Initiative +12 Perception +9Standard Actions m Broadsword (weapon) • At-Will Attack: +17 vs. AC Hit: 2d10 + 9 damage. M Imposing Smite (weapon) • Recharge 5 6 Attack: +17 vs. AC Hit: 3d10 + 9 damage, and an S or M target is pushed 1 square and knocked prone. . Triggered Actions Fanatic (weapon) Trigger: The Maiden Falls to 0 hp. Effect: The Gray Maiden makes a melee basic attack. Defender Aura • At-Will Trigger: An adjacent enemy shifts or attacks someone neither marking the enemy nor imposing defender aura on the enemy. Effect (Opportunity): She makes a Broadsword attack vs the triggering enemy. Skills Intimidate +15, Athletics +16, Endurance +14 Str 21 (+11)    Dex 18 (+10)    Wis 17 (+9) Con 16 (+9)    Int 15 (+8)    Cha 19 (+10) Alignment evil Languages Common Equipment plate armor, heavy shield, broadsword</blockquote>

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