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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 4688814" data-attributes="member: 64209">My biggest gripe is the loss of fluff. I can (and have) go (gone) back to 2nd edition and convert virtually everything over. Want to run a drow adventure? Convert Menzoberranzan. Want more Forgotten Realms stuff? Just convert the old adventures. I can't do that with 4e. It is a great fantasy game, but it's not an extension of the mythos and story that has been D&D. I don't believe it "isn't D&D", as it is a fantasy RPG with most of the elements. However, it's not "the same but different". It is different. Some embrace that, with the slaying of the sacred cows. Others, such as myself, see it as throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I miss those old concepts, fluff elements, and so on. I miss them enough not to convert so that I won't have to miss them. If I play 4e, it's like playing a different game (for me). I don't bother trying to blend the old fluff and the new game, as they've intentionally changed SO much. I play it as a fun "in-between" cross of older D&D and Warhammer. It's more of a "board game" to me than a RPG, because I cling to the old roleplaying history, themes, stories, cultures, etc that are in existence, and use them in my 3rd ed gaming. When I play 4e it is about kicking butt while using my powers tactically. That's fun, but it's missing what I've stated above.</blockquote>