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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 4696308" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>QFMFT. XP to you sir!</p><p></p><p>Really, when you think about it, the whole nerdrage over D&D is rather stupid. Its a GAME. Except for a very few people designing for it, it doesn't affect anybody's livlihood or financial situation.</p><p></p><p>When 4e came out, a lot of people liked it, and some were very vocal for their enjoyment of the system. They wanted to share what they enjoyed, and express their enthusiasm. Thats normal- its what people do when they find a movie, book, etc they enjoy. Some of those folks were somewhat overzealous, but even from reading posts back then, they never stated "3e/your D&D game sucks, and if you don't like 4e you're a moron", contrary to what some folks around here would have people believe. Think about it, why would a 4e supporter who just got what they had been hoping for go out looking to pick fights? That line of reasoning is completely illogical.</p><p></p><p>I think those who didn't like 4e took the enthusiasm of the 4e supporters as rubbing their faces in a new edition they didn't like, and the 4e detractors started getting nasty and personal, or making blanket statements like "its impossible to roleplay with 4e", "4e is all about combat", "4e is an MMO", "4e is t-ball D&D", or "there are no half-fiendish dire wombat druid/spellthief/hulking hurlers in 4e, so it sucks". The 4e supporters fired back after feeling attacked, and the edition wars flared up again.</p><p></p><p>But really, it doesn't matter. 4e supporters have a game they are happy with, and people who like earlier edition play have those editions to play with, or even Pathfinder or C&C. Maybe if you don't like 4e, this would be a good time to branch out and try other games- this is what my group and I did after we decided 3e wasn't for us. We started playing nWoD, WHFRP2, Savage Worlds- we had a blast, and learned a lot about what kind of games we DO like. Pick a game you do like, get some friends together and have some fun! Life is far too short to get so emotionally overwrought about something as insignificant as a game. Game on! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 4696308, member: 317"] QFMFT. XP to you sir! Really, when you think about it, the whole nerdrage over D&D is rather stupid. Its a GAME. Except for a very few people designing for it, it doesn't affect anybody's livlihood or financial situation. When 4e came out, a lot of people liked it, and some were very vocal for their enjoyment of the system. They wanted to share what they enjoyed, and express their enthusiasm. Thats normal- its what people do when they find a movie, book, etc they enjoy. Some of those folks were somewhat overzealous, but even from reading posts back then, they never stated "3e/your D&D game sucks, and if you don't like 4e you're a moron", contrary to what some folks around here would have people believe. Think about it, why would a 4e supporter who just got what they had been hoping for go out looking to pick fights? That line of reasoning is completely illogical. I think those who didn't like 4e took the enthusiasm of the 4e supporters as rubbing their faces in a new edition they didn't like, and the 4e detractors started getting nasty and personal, or making blanket statements like "its impossible to roleplay with 4e", "4e is all about combat", "4e is an MMO", "4e is t-ball D&D", or "there are no half-fiendish dire wombat druid/spellthief/hulking hurlers in 4e, so it sucks". The 4e supporters fired back after feeling attacked, and the edition wars flared up again. But really, it doesn't matter. 4e supporters have a game they are happy with, and people who like earlier edition play have those editions to play with, or even Pathfinder or C&C. Maybe if you don't like 4e, this would be a good time to branch out and try other games- this is what my group and I did after we decided 3e wasn't for us. We started playing nWoD, WHFRP2, Savage Worlds- we had a blast, and learned a lot about what kind of games we DO like. Pick a game you do like, get some friends together and have some fun! Life is far too short to get so emotionally overwrought about something as insignificant as a game. Game on! :) [/QUOTE]
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