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<blockquote data-quote="Tom Cashel" data-source="post: 824425" data-attributes="member: 321"><p>Make sure they buy extra bowstrings. What's the problem? Down below you lament everyone using the waraxe, but when the dwarven barbarian goes the archer route you lament that too. What's with all the lamentation?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Phantasmal killer/slay living/harm/maximized fireball</em>/etc./etc./etc. on the mount. Tanglefoot bags. <em>Grease</em> spell on the floor. Tripwires. <em>Commands</em> and <em>suggestions</em>. Need more?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bluff them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If he's doing it for role-playing reasons, why thwart him? Congrats on DMing 100 Rogues.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you have to pay, it's not worth putting up with the play. If they <em>want</em> to play, most likely the entertainment will save the day. Why do you care what they play?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's novelty. The +2 bonus on Spell saves ain't that great.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>House rules suck.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's your question?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who cares?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Ibid.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay. This one I'll go along with, as long as it's meant to be holistic.</p><p></p><p>Sounds more like a bunch of min/maxing players than a problem with 3E. I used to rail against the system...oh yes, I did! But I've discovered that it's better to talk to your players about what kind of game you want to run, and set some ground rules, rather than expecting the 3E rules (as written) to be all things to all gamers.</p><p></p><p>Now quit yer bitching. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tom Cashel, post: 824425, member: 321"] Make sure they buy extra bowstrings. What's the problem? Down below you lament everyone using the waraxe, but when the dwarven barbarian goes the archer route you lament that too. What's with all the lamentation? [i]Phantasmal killer/slay living/harm/maximized fireball[/i]/etc./etc./etc. on the mount. Tanglefoot bags. [i]Grease[/i] spell on the floor. Tripwires. [i]Commands[/i] and [i]suggestions[/i]. Need more? Bluff them. If he's doing it for role-playing reasons, why thwart him? Congrats on DMing 100 Rogues. If you have to pay, it's not worth putting up with the play. If they [i]want[/i] to play, most likely the entertainment will save the day. Why do you care what they play? It's novelty. The +2 bonus on Spell saves ain't that great. House rules suck. What's your question? Who cares? [i]Ibid.[/i] Okay. This one I'll go along with, as long as it's meant to be holistic. Sounds more like a bunch of min/maxing players than a problem with 3E. I used to rail against the system...oh yes, I did! But I've discovered that it's better to talk to your players about what kind of game you want to run, and set some ground rules, rather than expecting the 3E rules (as written) to be all things to all gamers. Now quit yer bitching. :D [/QUOTE]
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