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<blockquote data-quote="Tanager" data-source="post: 44813" data-attributes="member: 1986"><p>Not sure if this works at all, just posting off the top of my head.</p><p></p><p>Is a compromise position possible? Say something along the lines of Wizards memorizing a "spell pool", ie. a selection of spells from their book, which they can then cast using their PP/MP. </p><p></p><p>Playing with this hypothesis to compare wizards and Sorcerors:</p><p>Lets say that wizards can memorize up to their usual no. of spells/day as their pool, measured in spell levels and counting cantrips as .5 (bad form I know, but I haven't thought all this out yet). </p><p></p><p>Note: the "spell levels" is merely being used as a unit of mesurement, I think I'd still require wizards to memorize their spells in the usual No. of spells/level as given on the spells per day chart on page 52 of the PHB.</p><p></p><p>Metamagic feats applied to wizard spells on the fly should be subject to the same restrictions as sorcerors while "prepared" metamagic spells would still cost the modifed number of "levels/day".</p><p></p><p>First level wizards can memorize up to 2.5 levels worth of spells, selected from those scribed into their book each day. And have 8 MP, subject to modification for the intelligence bonus.</p><p></p><p>20th level wizards can memorize up to 182 levels worth of spells from their book and have an unmodified 364 MP.</p><p></p><p>First level Sorcerors cast from a spell pool 4 spell levels and have 11 unmodified MP.</p><p>20th level sorcs. cast from an available pool of 157.5 spell levels</p><p>and have an unmodified 546 MP.</p><p></p><p>Is this balanced? It's iffy, at best. </p><p></p><p>Not so much on the Wiz/Sorc. front but in terms of arcane caster/everyone else. At 20th level a sorceror can cast 91 third level spells every day! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tanager, post: 44813, member: 1986"] Not sure if this works at all, just posting off the top of my head. Is a compromise position possible? Say something along the lines of Wizards memorizing a "spell pool", ie. a selection of spells from their book, which they can then cast using their PP/MP. Playing with this hypothesis to compare wizards and Sorcerors: Lets say that wizards can memorize up to their usual no. of spells/day as their pool, measured in spell levels and counting cantrips as .5 (bad form I know, but I haven't thought all this out yet). Note: the "spell levels" is merely being used as a unit of mesurement, I think I'd still require wizards to memorize their spells in the usual No. of spells/level as given on the spells per day chart on page 52 of the PHB. Metamagic feats applied to wizard spells on the fly should be subject to the same restrictions as sorcerors while "prepared" metamagic spells would still cost the modifed number of "levels/day". First level wizards can memorize up to 2.5 levels worth of spells, selected from those scribed into their book each day. And have 8 MP, subject to modification for the intelligence bonus. 20th level wizards can memorize up to 182 levels worth of spells from their book and have an unmodified 364 MP. First level Sorcerors cast from a spell pool 4 spell levels and have 11 unmodified MP. 20th level sorcs. cast from an available pool of 157.5 spell levels and have an unmodified 546 MP. Is this balanced? It's iffy, at best. Not so much on the Wiz/Sorc. front but in terms of arcane caster/everyone else. At 20th level a sorceror can cast 91 third level spells every day! :o [/QUOTE]
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