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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 2795281" data-attributes="member: 5038">For kits1) Where possible use existing class and UA style class variants.&nbsp; For example, The Amazon, Barbarian, and Beast Rider from the Complete Fighter's Handbook are primarily the Barbarian Hunter variant from UA while the Berserker is the Barbarian class.&nbsp; The Amazon and Beast Rider might have the Nomad feat as they are listed as being horse people.The Bandit and Scout from the Complete Thief's Handbook can be done with the Wilderness Rogue variant from UA.2)&nbsp; For concepts that cannot be done, I had been toying with using cultural and profession feats that grant three or four skills as class skills although I recently learned that AEG's swasbuckling Adventures already used the approach.&nbsp; Some examples:Acrobat (Professional Feat)Prequisite: Profession (Acrobat) 4 ranksBenefit: climb, jump, tumble , and use rope are always class skillsAmazon/Nomad (Cultural Feat)Prerequisite: Ride (4 ranks) and BarbarianBenefit: Handle Animal, Ride, Survival and Initimidate (?) are always class skillsBodyguardPrerequisite: Profession (Bodyguard):4 RanksBenefit: Intimidate, Sense Motive, Search, and Spot are always class skillsSailor (Profession)Prerequisite: Profession (sailor) 4 ranksBenefit: Balance,&nbsp; Sea Lore (Survival variant), Spot and Use Rope are always class skillsSkald (Profession)Prerequisite: Profession (skald) 4 ranksBenefit: Diplomacy, Knowledge (History and Law), Perform (oratory, Play Insturment, and Sing) and ? are always class skills</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 2795281, member: 5038"] For kits 1) Where possible use existing class and UA style class variants. For example, The Amazon, Barbarian, and Beast Rider from the Complete Fighter's Handbook are primarily the Barbarian Hunter variant from UA while the Berserker is the Barbarian class. The Amazon and Beast Rider might have the Nomad feat as they are listed as being horse people. The Bandit and Scout from the Complete Thief's Handbook can be done with the Wilderness Rogue variant from UA. 2) For concepts that cannot be done, I had been toying with using cultural and profession feats that grant three or four skills as class skills although I recently learned that AEG's swasbuckling Adventures already used the approach. Some examples: Acrobat (Professional Feat) Prequisite: Profession (Acrobat) 4 ranks Benefit: climb, jump, tumble , and use rope are always class skills Amazon/Nomad (Cultural Feat) Prerequisite: Ride (4 ranks) and Barbarian Benefit: Handle Animal, Ride, Survival and Initimidate (?) are always class skills Bodyguard Prerequisite: Profession (Bodyguard):4 Ranks Benefit: Intimidate, Sense Motive, Search, and Spot are always class skills Sailor (Profession) Prerequisite: Profession (sailor) 4 ranks Benefit: Balance, Sea Lore (Survival variant), Spot and Use Rope are always class skills Skald (Profession) Prerequisite: Profession (skald) 4 ranks Benefit: Diplomacy, Knowledge (History and Law), Perform (oratory, Play Insturment, and Sing) and ? are always class skills [/QUOTE]

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