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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 2404545" data-attributes="member: 2855">Of course you do.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As far as I know, nobody is spreading rumors about 4e. However, a lot of people ARE speculating about it. There is a difference there...This speculation comes from the fact that 3.5 was released 2 years ahead of its original plan. Many people believe that Hasbro, the company that owns WotC, had a major hand in this decision.Natural extrapolation would have had 4e coming out in 2010 if 3.5 came out in 2005 (like it was supposed to).  The question is, did WotC change from a 5 year cycle to a 3 year cycle, or are they still on a 5 year cycle and was the 2 year cut in cycle a one time thing. If the former, that could mean 4e in 2006, if the latter, it could mean 4e in 2008. And if you read the posts, you will notice that it is never a company rep that starts the thread. It is always somebody else doing their own wondering. Folks just come along and chime in with their own opinions (not any sort of marketing strategy).I think that you are reading WAY too much into some posts.  Any company that posts about 4E does so because THEY are concerned. What changes will be made? Will it still be OGL? Will the d20 STL still be allowed? All very valid questions that a company has to think about when they are using those licenses.Is that "desperately" defined as the actual dictionary definition? Or the totally "unrelated to reality" definition that Dancey is using over in the General forum in discussing rules-lite games? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Seriously though, I really doubt that anybody is trying to "scare" you into purchasing their products. That would be an incredibly stupid thing to do, as it would not turn you into a repeat customer, which is what companies would prefer to do.What rumor-mongers? I don't think that I have seen any companies spreading rumors. And neither have I seen ANY company saying the equivalent of "Beware! 4e is coming, buy my products!".Oh this is hilarious! First off, I think you attribute too much to the folks who post on the 4E threads. Secondly, seeing as I am one of the VERY few non-d20 people who do hang out on these forums, I can tell you for a fact that I have never used any sort of sneaky marketing tactic, ever. I happen to be too blunt and to the point for something along those lines. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Having said that, I will admit that I DO have concerns about 4E, and that I think that IF it does come out soon, that it would be a "BAD THING", not just for D&D/d20, but for the entire rpg industry. My personal concern is that it will come out soon though. And I am not the only one worried about. Quite a few d20 publishers are also worried/concerned about.For example, several months ago, there was one of those 4E threads, and in it, Mike Mearls (who has since gone on to work for WotC) said that he expected 4E "within a year or two" because of all the hiring that WotC had started doing. Green Ronin and Phil Reed of Ronin Arts, and a number of other d20 publishers have also expressed concerns that 4E will be released soon (and always the opinion is that it would be too soon). In this very thread, Mongoose_Matt implies that he thinks it may be released within a year or two (though it is hard to tell if he was joking or not).And noplace in any of these posts by these people did I ever see anything that even hints of any sort of marketing plan or anything that implied that they were trying to scare anybody into buying their products.Just take the posts for what they actually were, people expressing their concerns over something that they think is going to happen, and is going to happen too soon.</blockquote>

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