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<blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 9007104" data-attributes="member: 7040132"><p>To clarify, Rogues get Cunning Action that allows them to use some Actions as Bonus Actions. They are limited in the types of actions. That is not weird. It would be weird if they could also cast a spell as a bonus action. That is not in their purview. Now some Rogue subclasses can do more stuff with Cunning Action (but not cast a spell as a bonus action).</p><p></p><p>By the same reasoning, it is also weird for a Fighter to know how to cast a spell quickly with Action Surge. There is no narrative or functional reason for a baseline fighter to be able to do that. It's not in their purview. Right now there are people who dip 2 levels into a non-magical fighter to cast 2 spells per round. Makes no sense. However, perhaps at 3rd level, the Eldritch Knight could be justified narratively in that they have learned how to cast 2 spells in a round. By taking a 3rd level in fighter and taking that subclass, that is an interesting choice that makes narrative sense, and requires another class to invest more into that archetype to make that a reality (taking 3 levels of fighter rather than 2). You're right in that the 1/3 level multiclass spellcaster thing makes it work even better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirrorrorrim, post: 9007104, member: 7040132"] To clarify, Rogues get Cunning Action that allows them to use some Actions as Bonus Actions. They are limited in the types of actions. That is not weird. It would be weird if they could also cast a spell as a bonus action. That is not in their purview. Now some Rogue subclasses can do more stuff with Cunning Action (but not cast a spell as a bonus action). By the same reasoning, it is also weird for a Fighter to know how to cast a spell quickly with Action Surge. There is no narrative or functional reason for a baseline fighter to be able to do that. It's not in their purview. Right now there are people who dip 2 levels into a non-magical fighter to cast 2 spells per round. Makes no sense. However, perhaps at 3rd level, the Eldritch Knight could be justified narratively in that they have learned how to cast 2 spells in a round. By taking a 3rd level in fighter and taking that subclass, that is an interesting choice that makes narrative sense, and requires another class to invest more into that archetype to make that a reality (taking 3 levels of fighter rather than 2). You're right in that the 1/3 level multiclass spellcaster thing makes it work even better. [/QUOTE]
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