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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9009580" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Paladins absolutely can use all their options with a ranged attack. Divine Smite now works on weapon attacks. Barbarians can't, but they can use them with thrown weapons. Also Rangers can use all their options with a ranged attack, weird you didn't talk about them. And, I'm sorry, was the standard "at least you are contributing" or was the standard "optimized"? Because you seem to be back peddling here. Um.... oh wow... they limited barbarians to melee only? That's stupid. Still, the standard wasn't "can use all of their abilities" the standard was "at least contribute" are you saying a barbarian with a Longbow is not contributing to the fight against the dragon? Yes they can. Or we could extrapolate the other way, because Kensei are a thing, and there is no reason not to. But again, what was your standard here? Because you said "True, you're not at your best, maybe not even at your baseline, but you're at least contributing."A monk using a bow to attack isn't at their best. They aren't at their baseline. But they are contributing. That was your standard. Fighter's don't have maneuvers. That is Battlemasters, and we don't even know if they will keep them. Monks, Barbarians, Paladins and Rangers can also use all of their attacks with a bow, nothing prevents them. And Fighter's can only use mastery with a bow if they take mastery with that bow, and frankly, I will push for barbarians to be able to get that as well, because there is no reason not to have it.</blockquote>

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