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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9013792" data-attributes="member: 6801228">If there were fats capable of balancing that out, sure. But somehow I don't think there is a feat that offers the control options of Hypnotic Pattern or Wall of Force. I don't think Heavy Armor on a wizard is really something most of them care about for example, while something like Spell snipers 1) Increases a stat they care about, 2) Keeps them at a superior range 3) Allows them to ignore cover which can hinder ranged attacks 4) Take no penalties from casting in melee. Considering two 1st level spells and a decent dex score gives any Wizard an AC of 20 on demand, I think the increased spellcasting is generally more valuable. Or, you point to the ability to get the Epic Boon of Energy Resistance.... which Mages can get. It is actually WARRIORS who can't get that one. So, compare resistance to two damage types and a reaction damage when taking that damage to... ignoring weapon resistances (something mages do already) and dealing extra damage on that 5% chance of a crit. Or more accurately, why don't we compare it to at-will teleportation (Boon of Dimensional Travel), or at-will invisibility and resistance to almost all types of damage (Boon of the Night Spirit)?It may be entirely possible to go an entire battle without once activating the epic boon of irresistible offense, but you are certainly going to notice the spellcaster who can teleport at-will. So, if feats are going to allow martials to close the gap... Well, there is a lot of progress to be made on that front.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9013792, member: 6801228"] If there were fats capable of balancing that out, sure. But somehow I don't think there is a feat that offers the control options of Hypnotic Pattern or Wall of Force. I don't think Heavy Armor on a wizard is really something most of them care about for example, while something like Spell snipers 1) Increases a stat they care about, 2) Keeps them at a superior range 3) Allows them to ignore cover which can hinder ranged attacks 4) Take no penalties from casting in melee. Considering two 1st level spells and a decent dex score gives any Wizard an AC of 20 on demand, I think the increased spellcasting is generally more valuable. Or, you point to the ability to get the Epic Boon of Energy Resistance.... which Mages can get. It is actually WARRIORS who can't get that one. So, compare resistance to two damage types and a reaction damage when taking that damage to... ignoring weapon resistances (something mages do already) and dealing extra damage on that 5% chance of a crit. Or more accurately, why don't we compare it to at-will teleportation (Boon of Dimensional Travel), or at-will invisibility and resistance to almost all types of damage (Boon of the Night Spirit)? It may be entirely possible to go an entire battle without once activating the epic boon of irresistible offense, but you are certainly going to notice the spellcaster who can teleport at-will. So, if feats are going to allow martials to close the gap... Well, there is a lot of progress to be made on that front. [/QUOTE]

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