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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9018343" data-attributes="member: 5889">Fair enough, my google sources said 800 but I did not dig in too closely.As you say, this one was more &quot;movie magic&quot; then anything, as even by stats cap shouldn't have been able to move that helicopter like he did, but there is no equivalent push for the fighter in that arena.The Champion is the most &quot;standard&quot; fighter, and as its the OneDnd subclass we have its the one I used. Your right, I could have chosen an echo knight and suddenly possessed abilities far more awesome than Cap or even Thor in certain ways. But the exercise was to show that fighters are closely to Captain America, and so I'm using the basic standard. If I used a Samurai for example, well once per day I could pull off the Thor feat of taking the full force of a star (I drop to 0 hp, then use a second wind with strength before death), except better than Thor because I don't actually fall unconscious.There is no perfect &quot;this is captain america&quot; subclass, I'm just using what we have to see if we can get a reasonable equivalency of power.Sure, but we already agree that Mages are thor level<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9018343, member: 5889"] Fair enough, my google sources said 800 but I did not dig in too closely. As you say, this one was more "movie magic" then anything, as even by stats cap shouldn't have been able to move that helicopter like he did, but there is no equivalent push for the fighter in that arena. The Champion is the most "standard" fighter, and as its the OneDnd subclass we have its the one I used. Your right, I could have chosen an echo knight and suddenly possessed abilities far more awesome than Cap or even Thor in certain ways. But the exercise was to show that fighters are closely to Captain America, and so I'm using the basic standard. If I used a Samurai for example, well once per day I could pull off the Thor feat of taking the full force of a star (I drop to 0 hp, then use a second wind with strength before death), except better than Thor because I don't actually fall unconscious. There is no perfect "this is captain america" subclass, I'm just using what we have to see if we can get a reasonable equivalency of power. Sure, but we already agree that Mages are thor level:) [/QUOTE]

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