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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9019821" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Because if every potato farmer in the world can do the same "impossible" thing then it isn't actually impossible, is it? IRL surviving the bite of a Cobra, without medical attention is about a 5% chance. That's real easy to model in DnD, you just are going to have to require a nat 20. At a DC 10 check, that means you need a -10 modifier which you would get at a constitution score of.... -10. So, in DnD you have to effectively be DEAD ten times over, before your chances of failing that DC are "realistic". So saying that Fighters are extraordinary for being able to make that save is misleading at best, and outright ridiculous most of the time. Anything with 3 hp and a positive constitution score is more likely to survive a cobra bite in DnD than an IRL person. So since when is Batman IRL? You can't just remove the context of DnD from the discussion of DnDTom Cruise and Ben Afflac aren't Action Movie Heroes. Shocker. This is my shocked face. Who would have guessed that actors aren't really the characters they portray. But you do really get the point while you are whizzing by it. "Jack Reacher might manage that, but like Batman he is a character.... Characters, like D&D fighters, outinely do impossible things."Yeah, a high level fighter beating a tiger to death is ROUTINE for characters like this. Do you think Tigers are serious threats to Dragons? Do you think the Demon Lord Graz'zt fears being left in a pit with a Tiger, because he might die? Sure, we can say "but it would be impossible for anyone to do IRL!" but it misses the point that we don't consider Tigers serious threats in most DnD games. The context matters, barely impossible feats (because give the human a spear and the tiger suddenly is very much at risk of being killed) are things we expect from mid-tier CHARACTERS. It doesn't matter if a real life person couldn't do this. We depict people doing things no real life person could ever do all the time in media. But to be on the same level as high level casters, we really need high level warriors to get past the level of John Wick and Jack Sparrow.</blockquote>

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