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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9013111" data-attributes="member: 5889">Lets so a comparison to see how Hypnotic Pattern and Arcane Eruption stack up with each other.*-Indicates this effect is superior to the other spell.<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Hypnotic Pattern</td><td>Arcane Eruption</td></tr><tr><td>Level</td><td>3*</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>Range</td><td>120</td><td>120</td></tr><tr><td>Components</td><td>S,M*</td><td>S,V</td></tr><tr><td>Area</td><td>30 foot cube</td><td>20 foot burst*</td></tr><tr><td>Friendly Fire</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Damage</td><td>0</td><td>6d6 almost any type*</td></tr><tr><td>Effect</td><td>Charmed -> Incapacitated*</td><td>Various</td></tr><tr><td>Concentration</td><td>Yes</td><td>No*</td></tr><tr><td>Duration</td><td>1 minute or until take damage, action to wake</td><td>End of next round, no removal</td></tr><tr><td>Save</td><td>Wis*</td><td>Con</td></tr></table>So to me its a mixed bag. AE has the better area, and obviously does damage (that's practically irresistable considering the number of types you can draw from). Also, no concentration is a BIG deal. However, HP is consistent (which is quite important) and the wisdom save is definately a better option.AE works on things immune to charm which is a niche to note. I think the duration is a wash. 1 minute is obviously longer, but with AE I can still pound on the damage without waking them up.It is worth noting that HP works in silence, which again is a useful niche to note.So ultimately I can see niches for both. The way I see this is, if your a damage focused sorc, they you can lay on damage and get in a nice control effect, which is just solid. Also the high variety of energy types is going to be very appealing to you, as well as no-concentration. However, if your focus is on control, I think the consistency of HP (both in effect and in saving throw) will likely win you over. When your a controller you HATE randomness, you want your thing to work as consistently as possible, and HP offers the better bargain here.I think the real question then is.... if we compare this to a 4th level fireball (aka 9d6 damage assuming fireball doesn't get nerfed...which it certainly might), is the ability to shift your energy type and throw on a variable control effect worth 3d6 damage? I think it is.</blockquote>

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