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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5717193" data-attributes="member: 43019">They have been doing this, very slowly. The overall process will take hundreds of man-hours, though.Better to treat it like inherent - make a standard house rule to add a +1/tier feat bonus, add it to the CB, move on.It is possible to cleanup, but an elegant and complete fix would involve surgery on a large number of things - including a few dozen feats (though Epic Fort/Ref/Will should get fixed regardless), some items, maybe a race or two (like ones that get a defense bonus when they got two stats in same defense, but now can avoid with flex stats), masterwork in general, etc.There are a few thousand feats that would need to be examined and probably several hundred to drop, several hundred to revise. Major undertaking, another several hundred man-hours.That's... a tricky proposition. I'm fine with it, but realize we're now talking about examining a few thousand powers, as well. This is firmly in the land of an _actual_ 4.5 (ala 3.5) with a full development cycle, books, etc.They did do a gather information on that... as an aside, <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/27459665/DD_4E:_What_Works,_What_Fails?pg=1" target="_blank">here's a list</a> of things people brought up for the "What's broken in 4E" thread WotC did a bit back. To frame the scale of what else is on there besides frostcheese.Do powers like Virtuous Strike count - or have to be like the way the Thief is?Acid Orb, or more like Eldritch Blast?While we're talking basic attacks, I'd like to see no basic attacks prone or do forced movement (they break movement assumptions, things like Polearm Gamble and Repel Charge, etc)At any rate, I think it'd be more like a Year-And-A-Spring cleaning. Doesn't mean I'd be totally opposed, but... may be more reasonable to break into small chunks.</blockquote>

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