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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 4303815" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>Then you'd better find another hobby! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Incidentally, I must state that you're the first (if not the <em>only</em>) person I've ever seen demand <em>less</em> errata from publishers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Seriously, though, incorporating errata and rule revisions into RPG rule books between printings is standard practice and I can't think of too many publishers off the top of my head who <em>don't</em> do it. It seems that it might simply be an out of sight out of mind thing, in your case. That is, It seems that when you weren't aware of the practice, it never bothered you in the least, but now that you know about it and are aware of it, you don't like it at all. </p><p></p><p>To wit, WotC has been updating the core D&D books in this manner since shortly after the release of 3.0 -- I had at <em>least</em> two different printings of the D&D 3.0 PHB, one of which was a first printing with expanded quick play rules and plenty of errors; the other of which was a second printing, which was missing the quick play rules but incorporated a good deal of errata. While I didn't buy further copies of the PHB, I am <em>certain</em> that the subsequent printing were handled in the same manner. </p><p></p><p>Even the AD&D 1e books were updated between printings*. Here's a look at changes in the <a href="http://www.acaeum.com/library/errata_mm.html" target="_blank">Monster Manual</a> and <a href="http://www.acaeum.com/library/errata_dmg.html" target="_blank">DMG</a>*. Many newer games like Shadowrun 4e have already seen multiple printings (I <em>believe</em> that it is on the third or fourth printing) with errata incorporation. The practice even affected the original D&D woodgrain and white box sets. It's literally been applied since the beginning of RPGs and continues to be applied to this day. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The point is that the practice of incorporating errata and rule changes between printings and without declaring a new edition isn't just <em>not</em> uncommon, it's the way things are done (and have been done for decades) in the RPG hobby, with <em>very</em> few exceptions. </p><p></p><p>If a publisher had to declare a new edition of a game any time that they wanted to incorporate errata into a book, they'd go bankrupt very quickly. Just look at how much turmoil an edition change every ten years or so creates! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait. . . I may have misunderstood (but I don't want to waste all of the elegant explanation). Are you saying that you have no problem with publishers incorporating errata and rule revisions into subsequent printings of the <em>same</em> book but, rather, that your issue is with publishers printing <em>companion volumes</em> (e.g., PHB II) with additional information and the errata for core volumes contained therein? If so, that's quite different. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">*Oddly, while the AD&D 1e PHB errata was released, it was never incorporated into any subsequent print versions of the PHB (so there are some unusual exceptions to the rule).</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 4303815, member: 13892"] Then you'd better find another hobby! ;) Incidentally, I must state that you're the first (if not the [I]only[/I]) person I've ever seen demand [I]less[/I] errata from publishers :D Seriously, though, incorporating errata and rule revisions into RPG rule books between printings is standard practice and I can't think of too many publishers off the top of my head who [i]don't[/i] do it. It seems that it might simply be an out of sight out of mind thing, in your case. That is, It seems that when you weren't aware of the practice, it never bothered you in the least, but now that you know about it and are aware of it, you don't like it at all. To wit, WotC has been updating the core D&D books in this manner since shortly after the release of 3.0 -- I had at [I]least[/I] two different printings of the D&D 3.0 PHB, one of which was a first printing with expanded quick play rules and plenty of errors; the other of which was a second printing, which was missing the quick play rules but incorporated a good deal of errata. While I didn't buy further copies of the PHB, I am [i]certain[/i] that the subsequent printing were handled in the same manner. Even the AD&D 1e books were updated between printings*. Here's a look at changes in the [url=http://www.acaeum.com/library/errata_mm.html]Monster Manual[/url] and [url=http://www.acaeum.com/library/errata_dmg.html]DMG[/url]*. Many newer games like Shadowrun 4e have already seen multiple printings (I [I]believe[/I] that it is on the third or fourth printing) with errata incorporation. The practice even affected the original D&D woodgrain and white box sets. It's literally been applied since the beginning of RPGs and continues to be applied to this day. The point is that the practice of incorporating errata and rule changes between printings and without declaring a new edition isn't just [I]not[/I] uncommon, it's the way things are done (and have been done for decades) in the RPG hobby, with [I]very[/I] few exceptions. If a publisher had to declare a new edition of a game any time that they wanted to incorporate errata into a book, they'd go bankrupt very quickly. Just look at how much turmoil an edition change every ten years or so creates! Wait. . . I may have misunderstood (but I don't want to waste all of the elegant explanation). Are you saying that you have no problem with publishers incorporating errata and rule revisions into subsequent printings of the [I]same[/I] book but, rather, that your issue is with publishers printing [I]companion volumes[/I] (e.g., PHB II) with additional information and the errata for core volumes contained therein? If so, that's quite different. [size=1]*Oddly, while the AD&D 1e PHB errata was released, it was never incorporated into any subsequent print versions of the PHB (so there are some unusual exceptions to the rule).[/size] [/QUOTE]
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