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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4610312" data-attributes="member: 8158">Honestly? I see four strikers--especially four rangers--being as ideal against a red dragon as any balanced four-role party. What should they be replaced with? A wizard? A solo monster is the antithesis of what the wizard was built to fight, and he'll drop quickest of all. A defender? Not bad, but their melee emphasis allows the dragon to literally fly rings around them. As to throwing a controller at them, the eladrin rangers will have two good weapons for fighting a controller: the mobility to scatter so they're not in a boxable formation, and the ability to strike from range. Fey step can get you out of a lot snares. This combo is far from non-viable. The rangers' bane is going to be enemies with high AC (because that's pretty much all the ranger can target), high speed, ranged attacks, and threatening reach. Of course, outdoor battles will favor them, and indoor battles won't.</blockquote>