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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 7647730" data-attributes="member: 21076">Yep, I hear good things about Savage Worlds. Glad to hear they seem to be having continued success.Well, the article definitely dives into the business side. Not sure one should draw the conclusion based on a business focused article that the industry still isn't about the fun. If a company can't make money they can't put out a product, no matter how fun the game is. I appreciated the business insight.As for the secondary income, I took that to mean that these companies that used to be bigger in the industry are working on a much tighter line now. Being a second income they likely don't make enough money to support themselves on it alone. That usually means you are one "bad" product or two from the company folding. I didn't take it as anything about getting rich, it was about having a company that supports even getting product out the door and into the fans hands.I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to play a game they don't want to play. Choose your game and be happy with it! Switch games when you need a change. It is great that their is a choice for us gamers out there. Not sure why the hate on "marketing".Sort of the point of the OGL, to allow the fans to keep an edition alive and able to be re-used by 3rd parties. In the meantime Pathfinder has added a huge amount to the game since its initial release and continued to release their own material to the public for free. The Paizo community is pretty darn cool. Are there bad apples on their forums? Yep. Are there bad apples here? Yep. Are there bad apples on the Savage World forums? Probably.And a company isn't supposed to announce positive things for their company? They release many press releases that aren't touting various sales reports and numbers. You seem to be picking on a very select few.Frankly, you seem to have a pretty big distaste for WotC and Paizo. You seem to have a game you enjoy, not sure why they would come after you or after your sales dollars. Sounds like a fun college club in regards to their variety of games. Nothing wrong with that, 4e and Pathfinder certainly aren't the only games in town. People should definitely play what they like.As for games written by other gamers, really? Yeah, Mike Mearls, Monte Cook, Erik Mona, Jason Buhlman don't play games.... Again, you seem to have a severe distaste for anything WotC or Paizo - totally cool, but lets not go saying these games aren't designed by gamers.This was a business focused article, intentionally. And while fans may debate editions regularly and get heated by it I don't think I have seen any of the industry players at WotC or Paizo taking shots at each other. Talk about their successes, yep! But make slams at each other, no, I don't think that is occurring with the regularity you are trying to imply.</blockquote>

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