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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 7647732" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>Wow a lot of venom in that post right above mine. I especially love how he basically calls Dancy and Lisa Stevens both liars for failing to produce research that's probably over 10 years old. If the research DID still exist it probably would be in the hands of their competitors WOTC. But let's not have common sense and civil discourse get in the way of a good edition(?) system war.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad that Savage Worlds is doing well. Not my cuppa tea but more power to it's players and Pinnacle. They've sold out of several print runs GREAT. You know who else is on thier FIFTH print run? A game that was pretty much crapped on by a fair amount of people on these boards? PATHFINDER. You want to know what other game has probably gone through several print runs? D&D 4E. </p><p></p><p>The very insinuation that people who are playin those two games don't have the wherewithal to have decided for themselves that they wanted to play those games comes across as a level of condescension and arrogance that I havent seen since the ENWorld Edition wars of '08 - '09. </p><p></p><p>Nobody told me to play Pathfinder. I'd been supporting Paizo since Dungeon & Dragon. When WOTC went 4E, I didn't care for it I continued to play 3.5. When Pathfinder came out that was exactly my speed. So I support their products because it's a game that I want to play. Just like Savage Worlds is the game for you apparently, that's Pathfinder for me. The mere fact that you're in here taking a steaming crap ( a politely worded steaming crap) over Pathfinder and 4E while touting the virtue and purity of Savage Worlds kind proves that you're missing you're own fricking point. </p><p></p><p>PEOPLE PLAY WHAT THEY WANT TO. NOT WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS OR SAYS THEY SHOULD BE PLAYING. Whether its a small publisher game or a big publisher game. I play Pathfinder because it's a game I'm passionate about. I love HERO SYSTEM. I LIKE M&M. I played red box, 1st ED and 2nd ED. I don't play them anymore nor do I want to. I not begrudge the people who still play those games or look down on them. They're having fun.</p><p></p><p>The RPG industry is a buisness and buisnesses are in the buisness of making money. If they can make money doing what they love doing (which I'm pretty sure is the case for designers at Pinnacle, Paizo and WOTC), then great. So I'm not even sure what you're trying to say when you're blasting the RPG industry for taking actions to ensure that they can make money TO CONTINUE PAYING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CREATING AND DESIGNING THESE GAMES.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 7647732, member: 9213"] Wow a lot of venom in that post right above mine. I especially love how he basically calls Dancy and Lisa Stevens both liars for failing to produce research that's probably over 10 years old. If the research DID still exist it probably would be in the hands of their competitors WOTC. But let's not have common sense and civil discourse get in the way of a good edition(?) system war. I'm glad that Savage Worlds is doing well. Not my cuppa tea but more power to it's players and Pinnacle. They've sold out of several print runs GREAT. You know who else is on thier FIFTH print run? A game that was pretty much crapped on by a fair amount of people on these boards? PATHFINDER. You want to know what other game has probably gone through several print runs? D&D 4E. The very insinuation that people who are playin those two games don't have the wherewithal to have decided for themselves that they wanted to play those games comes across as a level of condescension and arrogance that I havent seen since the ENWorld Edition wars of '08 - '09. Nobody told me to play Pathfinder. I'd been supporting Paizo since Dungeon & Dragon. When WOTC went 4E, I didn't care for it I continued to play 3.5. When Pathfinder came out that was exactly my speed. So I support their products because it's a game that I want to play. Just like Savage Worlds is the game for you apparently, that's Pathfinder for me. The mere fact that you're in here taking a steaming crap ( a politely worded steaming crap) over Pathfinder and 4E while touting the virtue and purity of Savage Worlds kind proves that you're missing you're own fricking point. PEOPLE PLAY WHAT THEY WANT TO. NOT WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS OR SAYS THEY SHOULD BE PLAYING. Whether its a small publisher game or a big publisher game. I play Pathfinder because it's a game I'm passionate about. I love HERO SYSTEM. I LIKE M&M. I played red box, 1st ED and 2nd ED. I don't play them anymore nor do I want to. I not begrudge the people who still play those games or look down on them. They're having fun. The RPG industry is a buisness and buisnesses are in the buisness of making money. If they can make money doing what they love doing (which I'm pretty sure is the case for designers at Pinnacle, Paizo and WOTC), then great. So I'm not even sure what you're trying to say when you're blasting the RPG industry for taking actions to ensure that they can make money TO CONTINUE PAYING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CREATING AND DESIGNING THESE GAMES. [/QUOTE]
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