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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Feeroper" data-source="post: 5459883" data-attributes="member: 83317">The products cancelled were partially done so to put their release schedule in line with the new philosophy of theme. They are releasing these products to conincide with themed encounters seasons for example.  Another reason stated was that they didnt want to add any more bloat ala 3.X. Some of the materiel was repurposed into other products, and other stuff was removed as it isnt ready for release, or wasnt a worthy addition. I was initially curious about it and what it all meant, but after hearing them discuss it in length at DDXP, I felt pretty satisfied with their answer.  Also, just to add, we know 4e didnt death spiral back then because it still sells today. It was stated by Mr Dancey that he thought it was in a death spiral a couple years ago, yet still it occupies the largest shelf real estate in most book/gaming stores. It is true that D&D may not be the undisputed #1 anymore, as Paizo has done a fine job with PF and deserve their success, but just because you are no longer head and shoulders above, does not mean that you are now in a "death spiral". Its just not the only big kid on the block anymore. Think of it like this - the Sony PlayStation 3 launched to really low sales compared to what was expected. They were the king of the hill the previous generation with PS2 and no one came close. When PS3 launched everyone said sony was in its own "death spiral". They really were the joke of the industry at that time. But wait, what happened? They rebranded the PS3 image with the 'slim' model, and regained some lost ground, building up their image again with new IPs as opposed to only relying on the previous winners. Sure PS3 isnt #1 anymore, infact, its arguable that they are still #3 in the console war, but does that mean the PS3 is basically dead? Clearly not. I know its apples and oranges, but thats kinda the way I see it. WotC ruffled a few feathers with the radical shift in design for 4e, and as a result Paizo was able to capitalize on the market for those that prefered 3.5. However 4e did not just roll over and die, it grew and expanded greatly, and pulled alot of people into the hobby who hadnt played before, as well as bringing some old 1e or 2e players back into the fold. So despite not obliterating the competition, they ran with what they had, and grew it into a success. At least from what Im seeing it is a success.  In the end though it doesnt matter - people like what they like. i happen to like both 4e and Pathfinder and play both regularily.  Also to Ryan - I meant no offence to you in this post, I really appretiate what you did for this industry, and I certainly respect your opinion on the matter.</blockquote>

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