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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 6237198" data-attributes="member: 50895"><p>Essentially the tale as told by Lafcadio Hearn (Kiozumi Yagumo) in the 1890's is a direct translation of the only written version of the 47 ronin from the early 1700's. While the tale may have been told in different oratory versions, there is only a single written version. There is a Kabuki play version, however, that is recognized as a kabuki play and not the original historical written version (and also does not contain any fantastical elements), which there is only one known to exist. So, yes, I do claim otherwise. Adding tengu and other folklore inclusions in the story is an invention of the movie producers, and not in any previously written version of the story.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the point of Shogun as a TV series (I did clarify that it was a television show and not a movie in my original post). Really what does a different medium have to do with anything? There are plenty of television only fantasy sagas. Nothing about doing a story through television versus the movie industry prevents the inclusion of fantasy elements in a historical event. I don't see the media difference having any altering factor that would prevent the creation of an historical fantasy.</p><p></p><p>In the end, I don't believe adding fantastical elements to any movie automatically increases it's revenues. While it's certainly true more movies have been created recently that adds fantasy to historical periods (mostly comic book influenced stories), I don't see including such is a guarantee of profit. There are plenty of fantasy based movies (John Carter, anyone) that are financial failures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 6237198, member: 50895"] Essentially the tale as told by Lafcadio Hearn (Kiozumi Yagumo) in the 1890's is a direct translation of the only written version of the 47 ronin from the early 1700's. While the tale may have been told in different oratory versions, there is only a single written version. There is a Kabuki play version, however, that is recognized as a kabuki play and not the original historical written version (and also does not contain any fantastical elements), which there is only one known to exist. So, yes, I do claim otherwise. Adding tengu and other folklore inclusions in the story is an invention of the movie producers, and not in any previously written version of the story. Regarding the point of Shogun as a TV series (I did clarify that it was a television show and not a movie in my original post). Really what does a different medium have to do with anything? There are plenty of television only fantasy sagas. Nothing about doing a story through television versus the movie industry prevents the inclusion of fantasy elements in a historical event. I don't see the media difference having any altering factor that would prevent the creation of an historical fantasy. In the end, I don't believe adding fantastical elements to any movie automatically increases it's revenues. While it's certainly true more movies have been created recently that adds fantasy to historical periods (mostly comic book influenced stories), I don't see including such is a guarantee of profit. There are plenty of fantasy based movies (John Carter, anyone) that are financial failures. [/QUOTE]
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