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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 312743" data-attributes="member: 141">I think your suggestion is right on the money.&nbsp; Two hero points gives everything a +2 in a mental stat gives except the bonus to spell DC.&nbsp; Three hero points gives you the bonus too.As regards to the question about bonus spells, here is what I get from Table 1-1 in the PHB.&nbsp; 12-13 a 1st level spell14-15 a 2nd level spell16-17 a 3rd level spell18-19 a 4rth level spell20-21 a 1st and a 5th level spell22-23 a 2nd and a 6th level spell24-25 a 3rd and a 7th level spell26-27 a 4th and and an 8th level spell28-29 a 1st, a 5th, and a 9th level spellBonuses are cumulative.When a wizard goes from 17th to 18th level, he picks up an 8th and a 9th level spell.&nbsp; From 18th to 19th they get a 7th and a 9th level spell.&nbsp; From 19th to 20th it's an 8th and a 9th level spell again.I don't think it is a no-brainer that wizards take a level or two of hero, at least with the 3 point rule.&nbsp; In fact, since it delays the acquisition of 9th level spells, wizards may wish to wait until 17th level.&nbsp; I don't know if the goodies of being an epic wizard are such that&nbsp; they would mind the delay.All in all, I think it is pretty fair.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 312743, member: 141"] I think your suggestion is right on the money. Two hero points gives everything a +2 in a mental stat gives except the bonus to spell DC. Three hero points gives you the bonus too. As regards to the question about bonus spells, here is what I get from Table 1-1 in the PHB. 12-13 a 1st level spell 14-15 a 2nd level spell 16-17 a 3rd level spell 18-19 a 4rth level spell 20-21 a 1st and a 5th level spell 22-23 a 2nd and a 6th level spell 24-25 a 3rd and a 7th level spell 26-27 a 4th and and an 8th level spell 28-29 a 1st, a 5th, and a 9th level spell Bonuses are cumulative. When a wizard goes from 17th to 18th level, he picks up an 8th and a 9th level spell. From 18th to 19th they get a 7th and a 9th level spell. From 19th to 20th it's an 8th and a 9th level spell again. I don't think it is a no-brainer that wizards take a level or two of hero, at least with the 3 point rule. In fact, since it delays the acquisition of 9th level spells, wizards may wish to wait until 17th level. I don't know if the goodies of being an epic wizard are such that they would mind the delay. All in all, I think it is pretty fair. [/QUOTE]

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