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<blockquote data-quote="Clavis" data-source="post: 3926137" data-attributes="member: 31898">The science fantasy elements of early D&amp;D simply show the influence of Jack Vance's Dying Earth series. As for &quot;Alice&quot;, certainly you're not suggesting that Lewis Carroll's work isn't classic, Western, or fantastic? As for &quot;Godzilla&quot;, Japanese movie monsters appeared in the 1st Ed. Oriental Adventures book.The Greek myths and Medieval romances aren't part of the Western fantasy tradition? One of Tolkien's intentions, for instance, was to create a modern myth for the English people, in conscious imitation of classical legend and myth. There's a pretty clear literary descent from Beowulf to Lord of the Rings. For another example, the names in Howard's Hyborean tales are taken from classical mythology. The 20th century fantasy authors that D&amp;D was clearly based on were themselves part of the larger tradition of the fantastic in Western literature.Gotcha back.I never said that D&amp;D shouldn't support Asian-influenced fantasy. I only said that the baseline should be classic Western fantasy, with other things as add-ons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Clavis, post: 3926137, member: 31898"] The science fantasy elements of early D&D simply show the influence of Jack Vance's Dying Earth series. As for "Alice", certainly you're not suggesting that Lewis Carroll's work isn't classic, Western, or fantastic? As for "Godzilla", Japanese movie monsters appeared in the 1st Ed. [B]Oriental [/B]Adventures book. The Greek myths and Medieval romances aren't part of the Western fantasy tradition? One of Tolkien's intentions, for instance, was to create a modern myth for the English people, in conscious imitation of classical legend and myth. There's a pretty clear literary descent from Beowulf to Lord of the Rings. For another example, the names in Howard's Hyborean tales are taken from classical mythology. The 20th century fantasy authors that D&D was clearly based on were themselves part of the larger tradition of the fantastic in Western literature. Gotcha back. I [I]never[/I] said that D&D shouldn't support Asian-influenced fantasy. I only said that the baseline should be classic Western fantasy, with other things as add-ons. [/QUOTE]

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