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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 3734055" data-attributes="member: 2205">Seems like a stretch of logic to me.&nbsp; I don't think 4e is a response to anything so much as it is a response to WotC's need to kick their revenue stream up a notch or two.&nbsp; That said, no doubt the designers are also looking at things that didn't work in 3e and 3.5 quite as well as hoped; the things that were too fiddly and cumbersome, etc.&nbsp; However, I don't see that as a return to 1e, OSRIC or C&amp;C principles.&nbsp; If anything, it seems to be heading the other direction in many ways.&nbsp; Simplify play yes, yet make even more options for players available, and allow even more customization.&nbsp; In fact, those are kinda the antithesis of the 1e, OSIRC and C&amp;C vibe, which got to simplicity by simply not having any real options to speak of (relatively speaking, of course.) And I suspect that WotC is doing that because they've got market research suggesting that that's the direction the market demand is going.&nbsp; If that's the case, the 1e, OSRIC and C&amp;C market niche will remain essentially what it is now; a stable yet small niche of gamers with old school tastes.&nbsp; I doubt that's a markedly growing demographic.&nbsp; In fact, I'd suspect that the release of 4e may take a chunk out of the demographic altogether as OSRIC, 1e and C&amp;C players try out 4e and many of them decide that they like it and stay.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 3734055, member: 2205"] Seems like a stretch of logic to me. I don't think 4e is a response to anything so much as it is a response to WotC's need to kick their revenue stream up a notch or two. That said, no doubt the designers are also looking at things that didn't work in 3e and 3.5 quite as well as hoped; the things that were too fiddly and cumbersome, etc. However, I don't see that as a return to 1e, OSRIC or C&C principles. If anything, it seems to be heading the other direction in many ways. Simplify play yes, yet make even more options for players available, and allow even more customization. In fact, those are kinda the antithesis of the 1e, OSIRC and C&C vibe, which got to simplicity by simply not having any real options to speak of (relatively speaking, of course.) And I suspect that WotC is doing that because they've got market research suggesting that that's the direction the market demand is going. If that's the case, the 1e, OSRIC and C&C market niche will remain essentially what it is now; a stable yet small niche of gamers with old school tastes. I doubt that's a markedly growing demographic. In fact, I'd suspect that the release of 4e may take a chunk out of the demographic altogether as OSRIC, 1e and C&C players try out 4e and many of them decide that they like it and stay. [/QUOTE]

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