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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3737667" data-attributes="member: 467">Well, the 4e announcement and details that followed finally pushed me over the edge to switching my weekly group to 1e (my monthly group will remain 3e, mostly because there's ain't a snowball's chance of them changing).&nbsp; I happen to play weekly with what is largely a group of grognards -- if you can call people in their mid-30s grognards -- so it wasn't a hard sell.For me, the issues go far beyond just the perponderance of rules or the powergaming or the amount of just plain work it is to run 3e.&nbsp; It is all of those, plus tone.&nbsp; The fact is, I just prefer the tone and inherent playstyle of earlier editions, and since it looks like 4e is just going to be 3e with all the wrong dials turned up to 11, I feel I can finally give up the ghost on wishing D&amp;D is what it used to be and just play those games instead.&nbsp; I don't wish any ill will to WotC or 4e, and I don't think little of people that want that, but to me everything that has been said about 4e up to this point is pretty much the opposite of what D&amp;D means to me.&nbsp; Magic items in the PHB, a dungeon design column that talked only about combat, per-encounter resources: all of it is anathema to the &quot;good old days&quot;.So yeah, for at least one person, 4e has reignited 1e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 3737667, member: 467"] Well, the 4e announcement and details that followed finally pushed me over the edge to switching my weekly group to 1e (my monthly group will remain 3e, mostly because there's ain't a snowball's chance of them changing). I happen to play weekly with what is largely a group of grognards -- if you can call people in their mid-30s grognards -- so it wasn't a hard sell. For me, the issues go far beyond just the perponderance of rules or the powergaming or the amount of just plain work it is to run 3e. It is all of those, plus tone. The fact is, I just prefer the tone and inherent playstyle of earlier editions, and since it looks like 4e is just going to be 3e with all the wrong dials turned up to 11, I feel I can finally give up the ghost on wishing D&D is what it used to be and just play those games instead. I don't wish any ill will to WotC or 4e, and I don't think little of people that want that, but to me everything that has been said about 4e up to this point is pretty much the opposite of what D&D means to me. Magic items in the PHB, a dungeon design column that talked only about combat, per-encounter resources: all of it is anathema to the "good old days". So yeah, for at least one person, 4e has reignited 1e. [/QUOTE]

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