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<blockquote data-quote="Thasmodious" data-source="post: 4533541" data-attributes="member: 63272">I guess you should just get used to having any attempt to discuss 4e with other 4e players be dismissed by a certain group of posters as &quot;mouth noise&quot; and the game then attacked as a &quot;greedy marketing ploy&quot; and a &quot;boardgame' and any opinion to the contrary being dismissed as &quot;delusional&quot;.For the record, I agree with you that 4e has a very old school feel to it.&nbsp; I think its directly tied to the DM freedom that is built into the system, that and the re-emergence of class as a central component of character, rather than just a suite of abilities to be chosen at level up.&nbsp; The emphasis is back on leveling within a class as opposed to applying classes to your levels.&nbsp; I think that is a big source of the disconnect for some players, as well.&nbsp; I could see how 4e would feel more constricting to long time 3e players (especially those who started with 3e) with its old school emphasis on class choice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thasmodious, post: 4533541, member: 63272"] I guess you should just get used to having any attempt to discuss 4e with other 4e players be dismissed by a certain group of posters as "mouth noise" and the game then attacked as a "greedy marketing ploy" and a "boardgame' and any opinion to the contrary being dismissed as "delusional". For the record, I agree with you that 4e has a very old school feel to it. I think its directly tied to the DM freedom that is built into the system, that and the re-emergence of class as a central component of character, rather than just a suite of abilities to be chosen at level up. The emphasis is back on leveling within a class as opposed to applying classes to your levels. I think that is a big source of the disconnect for some players, as well. I could see how 4e would feel more constricting to long time 3e players (especially those who started with 3e) with its old school emphasis on class choice. [/QUOTE]

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