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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5156767" data-attributes="member: 2067">It makes me a sad panda, because of stuff like this. I don't see any reason that some dwarf with a golden mallet should be better than a telepathic psion (for instance) at dominating people. However, I also have no problem with a PC getting the following:Silver-Tongued DevilLevel 5 Daily Power (Charm)Prerequisite: Requires the Aurum Concordian feat (that feat does nothing aside from providing access to this power).Effect: For the rest of the encounter (or for the next 5 minutes), the character who used this ability can use the following attack.Target: One humanoid within 5 squaresAttack: Minor Action 1/round; Charisma vs. Will: No damage. The target is dominated until the end of your next turn. You can dominate only one creature at a time. A level 5 bard can dominate people, too, at a longer distance, and adds an attack to boot, though not for an entire combat. A level 1 (!) cleric of the Undying Court can do it, too, though once per encounter, with Channel Divinity, and only to Undead. This is clearly more powerful, but it's "within the league," I think. It's potent, mostly because it can be done every turn.And I'm okay with that. I really don't have a problem with a PC being able to do that. One encounter, you get to try and dominate a critter every round. Go wild. It might bone a solo monster, if you've got the luck o' the rolls, but it requires an attack roll every round, and it doesn't do damage, and it's not good for long-term effects, even  if it's good for the entire combat. And if it bones a solo monster I can always pull reinforcements out of the aether. I actually have a bigger problem doing it to a PC, since they only get one character to control, whereas a PC dominating a monster for me is almost a relief sometimes, in big combats. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But I'm boldly unafraid of characters having significant power, so I suppose the more timid DM's amongst us could reasonably conclude that I'm some sort of permissive maniac for allowing a PC to do that. I'd also let PC's fly and teleport without absurd costs and limits, too, so clearly I must be out of control. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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