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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 5156777" data-attributes="member: 54846">You're a human, I'm a human, we work at the same company. If you're really good at X and I'm really good at Y, shouldn't that mean that I equally could easily be good at X purely because you're a human and we work at the same company? No. You're good at X because you're good at X, not because you're a human at this company. That's your area of expertise.  The PC is a dwarf rogue. Dwarf rogues have specific powers they can get. The end. That's just How the System Works. Why is it the Dwarf Rogue who works for the Aurum has more healing surges and can Second Wind, while the Concordant can't? Why does the Dwarf Rogue have an action point while the Concordant doesn't? To put it another way, why can Bards multi-class all they want, while Pcs can only multi-class once? becuase the BARD can do it, so should anyone else, right? Because the Bard is in their group, and their abilities should be able to be similar. Why can a Sorcerer not take a Wizard power, without taking all kinds of feats? The Sorcerer is Arcane, the Wizard is Arcane, why can't they take the same powers? Why do they use different ability scores (Cha and Int)? Well, I'm afraid you're going to have to swallow it. Otherwise you get into the issue where you have to consider the impact of a monster having those powers outside of that encounter. At which point you get into the old argument why a spawning undead hasn't taken over the world?(In case you haven't heard that particular argument, most undead in 3e spawned when it killed someone. Shadows, wraiths, wights, etc. So let's say one shadow kills one person in a city; then there's two. Two shadows kill two people in the town, there's 4. Before an alarm goes off, you'll have hundreds of shadows on your hands, and your average town or city would get wiped out under the sheer numbers. Which leads to the question: how does the world not get wiped out overnight by a tide of shadows?)You're thinking of it in terms of in-game vermisilitude. But its' not. It's a matter of balancing. Simply put, the power is rarely going to be encountered compared to giving it to a player. NPCs break the rules with exceptions because they are under the Dm control and thus extremely limited.A player who got that ability would abuse the holy hell out of it. An at-will minor power that does anything is all ready broken. One that uses the second most powerful status condition (Stun being the most powerful) is just Beyond the Pale. NPCs have the power of the DM, the power of DM Fiat, and can do anything the DM wants. Should PCs be able to do that too? To wave their hand and say "I have that ability"?Let's put it another way. let's say that a player could get the ability to dominate, as a minor action, at will. How fun do you think this would be for the other players? How fun do you think this would be for You? If you don't think it would be awesome, then you see why it CAN'T happen. And if you agree that it would be mechanically broken and not fun, then how could you continue to argue that it should be doable? Which is more important, Verisimilitude, or a fair system?Or you go with Kamikaze, change the rules so the player get the ability, and you see what happens to your game.</blockquote>

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