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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5309720" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Cheer up, both Vance and Moorcock are towering icons of the fantasy and SF genre. Neither of them has faded all that much in popularity either. Vance is pushing 100 and hasn't published much new stuff since the early 90's but he's got a vast list of awards for his fantasy and you can find reprints of many of his novels in book stores right now today. In fact he did write an autobiography that was published last year, pretty good for a 95 yr old. Anyone who thinks Vance hasn't been a huge influence on SF and fantasy lives under a rock!</p><p></p><p>Someone saying Moorcock isn't a major influence or a hugely popular author truly IS living under a rock. He's highly active, has had a HUGE influence on modern fantasy and it would be hard to argue he isn't THE single most influential writer in the genre in general since Tolkien. He's still QUITE active and has written at least 5 or 6 fantasy novels in the last 10 years. I'm pretty sure they're quite popular.</p><p></p><p>So cheer up, anyone saying Vance or Moorcock aren't popular influential fantasy writers simply literally isn't in touch with what is going on in fantasy. They are also the two by far most wide ranging and imaginative of modern fantasy authors. Outside of Tolkien (and maybe even considering Tolkien) they've probably together done more to shape the genre in the last 50 years than anyone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Traveler. A VERY simulationist game with quite minimalistic rules. There have been large elaborations on elements of the Traveler WORLD, vast amounts of equipment, starships, setting material, etc. but the actual core rules of the game are dirt simple, significantly less elaborate that Basic D&D even and have survived with no change or elaboration for over 30 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5309720, member: 82106"] Cheer up, both Vance and Moorcock are towering icons of the fantasy and SF genre. Neither of them has faded all that much in popularity either. Vance is pushing 100 and hasn't published much new stuff since the early 90's but he's got a vast list of awards for his fantasy and you can find reprints of many of his novels in book stores right now today. In fact he did write an autobiography that was published last year, pretty good for a 95 yr old. Anyone who thinks Vance hasn't been a huge influence on SF and fantasy lives under a rock! Someone saying Moorcock isn't a major influence or a hugely popular author truly IS living under a rock. He's highly active, has had a HUGE influence on modern fantasy and it would be hard to argue he isn't THE single most influential writer in the genre in general since Tolkien. He's still QUITE active and has written at least 5 or 6 fantasy novels in the last 10 years. I'm pretty sure they're quite popular. So cheer up, anyone saying Vance or Moorcock aren't popular influential fantasy writers simply literally isn't in touch with what is going on in fantasy. They are also the two by far most wide ranging and imaginative of modern fantasy authors. Outside of Tolkien (and maybe even considering Tolkien) they've probably together done more to shape the genre in the last 50 years than anyone else. Traveler. A VERY simulationist game with quite minimalistic rules. There have been large elaborations on elements of the Traveler WORLD, vast amounts of equipment, starships, setting material, etc. but the actual core rules of the game are dirt simple, significantly less elaborate that Basic D&D even and have survived with no change or elaboration for over 30 years. [/QUOTE]
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