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Message: <blockquote data-quote="P1NBACK" data-source="post: 5316141" data-attributes="member: 83768">Can you show me the rule for this? Thanks. Naw, he was pretty effective actually. The player is an excellent power-gamer and he died to save the rest of the party. House rule? I'm just not seeing the rule that Brawler Fighters ignore the grabbing rules... I could totally be wrong. I'm just not seeing it. Right. A swarm of tarrasques would be larger than a tarrasque. I'm glad you see that now. Well, except for the fact that you said the only gargantuan swarm would be a swarm of tarrasques. I said, no, the Angry Mob is gargantuan. So, that makes it pretty significant, at least for this conversation. You're cool with a single human grabbing a gargantuan mob of humanoids, I'm not (outside of some fictional explanation, like using a board to force a swarm of rats to move). That's the point. It's just the difference when you try to play the game to the T of the rules, and when you can make judgment calls with common sense as a DM. I'd expect my players to call me on BS like that too. "The kobold grabs the mob of villagers you've gathered to take down the tribe!" "Wha?? You're kidding right?" "No, trust me! He's a kobold brawler fighter!" "Ummm... No." ":/ Yeah. You're right." It's why the fiction is so important. That way I know what's going on. That way I can say, "Yes, certainly you can tear up the floorboard and use it to push back the rat swarm. That makes sense. Let me reference my page 42 of the DMG. Thanks." Sure, bud. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Someone give Aegeri XP for me for keeping me occupied all afternoon on a lazy Friday. He's a good kid.</blockquote>

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