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Message: <blockquote data-quote="P1NBACK" data-source="post: 5322218" data-attributes="member: 83768">I agree that you're taking offense to something that is just simply true. 4E's combat mechanics are more like a board game and less like a roleplaying game. This is made doubly true if you completely ignore the fiction going on in the game to adhere to the strict disassociated mechanics in place at the table. The Burning Wheel is vastly different in this respect. The mechanics are jointed nicely with the fiction, so when you play the Burning Wheel strictly by the rules, it's not disassociated with the roleplaying at the table. I've said it before (in this and the swarm thread), this is a major flaw of 4E. It's mechanics (especially in combat, but also in Skill Challenges), is extremely disassociated with the fiction. So, while I'd be more interested in your argument if you were saying, "Well, because 4E's mechanics have so little to do with the fiction, it's not wise to make judgments of the mechanics based on the fiction." You saying, "you're making fun of us because you're saying it's boardgame-like to play strictly by the rules" doesn't really seem all that much of an argument. I'm not attacking anyone's play style. But, if we're going to play this game like a roleplaying game, I think some attention has to be paid to the fiction. When you say, "you can't push a swarm with a melee attack" and I say, "but he just used a board to shove the rats back into the wall!" Well, there's a fundamental difference there.</blockquote>

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