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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5323196" data-attributes="member: 42582">I agree with your last paragraph. I also agree that the stuff you talk about in your first couple of paragraphs isn't in 4e. It's not in Rolemaster either, and having come to 4e after playing a lot of RM may explain why I don't miss it. I'm happy enough to focus on the slightly larger scale stuff like position, terrain etc.Also, like I said in my post just above this one, some of the narration that powers like Come and Get It, or knocking an ooze prone, or grabbing a swarm, seem to demand in order to render the fiction coherent aren't necessarily irrelevant, because they can express the character of a PC or shed some light on the fictional situation. Even if this doesn't affect the immediate resolution of the combat, it can still be relevant in the longer run of play. I think this &quot;continuity&quot; of the fiction, which 4e isn't inimical to (in my experience), is another respect in which the comparison to board game play is misleading.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5323196, member: 42582"] I agree with your last paragraph. I also agree that the stuff you talk about in your first couple of paragraphs isn't in 4e. It's not in Rolemaster either, and having come to 4e after playing a lot of RM may explain why I don't miss it. I'm happy enough to focus on the slightly larger scale stuff like position, terrain etc. Also, like I said in my post just above this one, some of the narration that powers like Come and Get It, or knocking an ooze prone, or grabbing a swarm, seem to demand in order to render the fiction coherent aren't necessarily irrelevant, because they can express the character of a PC or shed some light on the fictional situation. Even if this doesn't affect the immediate resolution of the combat, it can still be relevant in the longer run of play. I think this "continuity" of the fiction, which 4e isn't inimical to (in my experience), is another respect in which the comparison to board game play is misleading. [/QUOTE]

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