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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5328191" data-attributes="member: 87792">I'm afraid that my reading of the rulebook is very clear.&nbsp; &quot;Note that since only guns inflict d10 fallout, only a gunfight can kill a character outright.&nbsp; And then only with two 10s on your Fallout dice.&quot;&nbsp; page 66 &quot;Whenever you Take a Blow, you get one Fallout die for each die you used to See.&nbsp; The size fo the dice depends on the blow you took:The blow was ...- Not physical, not ceremonial: d4s- Physical: d6s.- A Weapon: d8s- A gunshot: d10s... Ceremonial[Snip range of ceremonies with a range of d4-d8]&quot;page 81I'm afraid that here a cliff would count as a weapon - d8.&nbsp; And there is no mention I can see in my copy of DiTV of anything with d12 fallout, and the implicit ruling that only guns do d10.If you can't raise from using fists to using weapons, you simply aren't trying - and a cliff would just be another weapon.&nbsp; If you want a cliff to be d12, so far as I can tell then that is a pure house rule according to the actual text of the rules.&nbsp; (It's not one I'm averse to.&nbsp; Merely a house rule and as such has no place in the discussion of the actual rules).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5328191, member: 87792"] I'm afraid that my reading of the rulebook is very clear. "[B]Note that since only guns inflict d10 fallout, [U]only a gunfight can kill a character outright[/U].[/B] And then only with two 10s on your Fallout dice." page 66 "Whenever you Take a Blow, you get one Fallout die for each die you used to See. The size fo the dice depends on the blow you took: The blow was ... - Not physical, not ceremonial: d4s - Physical: d6s. - A Weapon: d8s - A gunshot: d10s ... Ceremonial [Snip range of ceremonies with a range of d4-d8]" page 81 I'm afraid that here a cliff would count as a weapon - d8. And there is no mention I can see in my copy of DiTV of anything with d12 fallout, and the implicit ruling that only guns do d10. If you can't raise from using fists to using weapons, you simply aren't trying - and a cliff would just be another weapon. If you want a cliff to be d12, so far as I can tell then that is a pure house rule according to the actual text of the rules. (It's not one I'm averse to. Merely a house rule and as such has no place in the discussion of the actual rules). [/QUOTE]

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