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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4438554" data-attributes="member: 710">I think, it begins not too complex. Two At-Wills, 1 Encounter, one Daily. That's very manageable. Of course, it is more complex then a 1st level Fighter (3E) or Soldier, but I don't think it's harder then a 1st level Wizard or Cleric.You can make someone that can take damage, but for a Defender, you also need to be someone that brings the enemy to chose you over anyone else on the battle-field. Without the mark-related abilities of the Fighter and the Paladin, that gets harder. Basically, both classes ensure that if you ignore them, they lay down the hurt on you. But when they focus on you, it becomes easier for them. In Starwars, the only way you would do this is by _always_ dealing tons of damage. You can wear the heaviest armor you want, no one's gonna attack you if someone else deals the damage to your foe. The effect on roles are very pronounced in that regard. The Strikers would be the natural target for enemies, if it wasn't for the Fighter always stabbing you in the back or stopping you in your tracks when you try to turn your attention to them.</blockquote>I think the difference here is that in 4e you are 95% tied to the class which gives you one role for combat... while in SWSE, you can invest however much you want into a particular combat role, but the classes themselves are broad archetypes that you specialize with your choices.[/QUOTE]It is certainly true that you can choose your role a little more independent from class (I don't think the Noble would be that flexible, barring multiclassing - which of course is exactly the method of choice if you still want to do it.)There are definitely two very different design paradigm involved in the class creation. Each class gets only one primary role (sometimes,they might have a secondary role, but it's usually well concealed - Warlords are also a little defenderish, Warlocks a little controllerish, and so on), and you can't get out of it, even with multiclassing.[/QUOTE]

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