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<blockquote data-quote="MadMaligor" data-source="post: 4833162" data-attributes="member: 66102"><p>RC I think this picture says a thousand words. Read the text below the logo at the top.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/setscans/box1st.html" target="_blank">Box1st</a></p><p> </p><p>Saying Gygax didn't intend miniatures to be used because he didn't use them, is like saying he didn't believe in the rules he published because he house-ruled so many of them.</p><p> </p><p>The fact that the game, for some people, evolved into a descriptive verbal discourse between player and DM, does not negate the undisputable rule sets for miniature use in <strong>every</strong> edition. It was always the intent of game designers to provide a system that promoted and supported the use of miniatures, or at the very least grid based combat that could be tracked with pencil and graph paper for those that could not afford minis. I remember how expensive minis were at the time, and the few bucks I was earning mowing lawns in the 70's sure as heck didnt allow me to go buck wild. Today things are much different, and the purchasing power of kids, young adults, and us old fellows gives WotC a market for its products.</p><p> </p><p>4th edition takes this to the n'th degree, but it is not out of character, nor does it come as a surprise in the D&D world. I am actually surprised that some people don't see the relationship D&D has had with miniatures since its inception. The two go hand in hand. They always have, and "likely" (IMHO) always will.</p><p> </p><p>Mal</p><p> </p><p>ps...to the OP, glad your enjoying the game. My appologies for my participation in the derail. =)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadMaligor, post: 4833162, member: 66102"] RC I think this picture says a thousand words. Read the text below the logo at the top. [URL="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpages/setscans/box1st.html"]Box1st[/URL] Saying Gygax didn't intend miniatures to be used because he didn't use them, is like saying he didn't believe in the rules he published because he house-ruled so many of them. The fact that the game, for some people, evolved into a descriptive verbal discourse between player and DM, does not negate the undisputable rule sets for miniature use in [B]every[/B] edition. It was always the intent of game designers to provide a system that promoted and supported the use of miniatures, or at the very least grid based combat that could be tracked with pencil and graph paper for those that could not afford minis. I remember how expensive minis were at the time, and the few bucks I was earning mowing lawns in the 70's sure as heck didnt allow me to go buck wild. Today things are much different, and the purchasing power of kids, young adults, and us old fellows gives WotC a market for its products. 4th edition takes this to the n'th degree, but it is not out of character, nor does it come as a surprise in the D&D world. I am actually surprised that some people don't see the relationship D&D has had with miniatures since its inception. The two go hand in hand. They always have, and "likely" (IMHO) always will. Mal ps...to the OP, glad your enjoying the game. My appologies for my participation in the derail. =) [/QUOTE]
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