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<blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 4550288" data-attributes="member: 1861"><p>Okay, first thing: yeah, I do think that it is change, and I never claimed that they were going for willy-nilly change so much as they were going for change for change's sake: You hate your living room which is painted blue and filled with furniture you find tacky. Going around making willy-nilly changes would be to throw paint all over the walls and replace all of that furniture with high-concept seating arrangements. Yeah, aesthetically some of those changes look nice (I like how the splotch works with the bronze statue of Morrus riding a small dog), but most are horrid or disjointed.</p><p></p><p>Change for change's sake is looking at that same living room and saying </p><p>"hey, you know what... I love all of the colors in this room, but it works better as a kitchen'. Maybe you have a perfectly functioning kitchen somewhere else... but you just tore out the floors, placed fixtures, etc. to make this new room work.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you needed that kitchen all along, but that 2e couch was highly comfortable, has a good ass-groove, things are working for it. And that 1e lamp was beautiful even if less technologically 'advanced' than that nice 3e sound system (a whole lot of noise and OOMPH, but only as good as you put into it).</p><p></p><p>Wow... I should stop making rants while hungry and jobless. </p><p></p><p>My stomach itches from eating wallpaper paste.</p><p></p><p>________________________</p><p></p><p>Okay, on D&D's popularity and arguments over editions: What popular product which changes doesn't have holdouts and arguments? Who here likes classic cars? Who likes to get the new sleek models? PC Users: Who enjoys using Vista? How about XP? </p><p></p><p>Yeah, apparently Cthulu isn't as popular as Dungeons and Dragons. And on a site which has the heading of ENWorld D&D/RPG News there are people arguing about D&D over other RPGs. </p><p></p><p>Popularity breeds a larger player base, which breeds more contempt in change, and makes change more difficult. You belong to the early adopters of a system which most likely 80% of the gaming population will turn over/be playing a year from now. So suffer the slings and arrows of ignominy while you step over all of those who still like the old stuff.</p><p></p><p>If you're able to accept that they may still like it later, there's always a spot on my couch, and we can spin some tunes. Just don't invite me over to your place... I don't want to have to sit in the kitchen sink <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.</p><p></p><p>Slainte,</p><p></p><p>-Loonook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Loonook, post: 4550288, member: 1861"] Okay, first thing: yeah, I do think that it is change, and I never claimed that they were going for willy-nilly change so much as they were going for change for change's sake: You hate your living room which is painted blue and filled with furniture you find tacky. Going around making willy-nilly changes would be to throw paint all over the walls and replace all of that furniture with high-concept seating arrangements. Yeah, aesthetically some of those changes look nice (I like how the splotch works with the bronze statue of Morrus riding a small dog), but most are horrid or disjointed. Change for change's sake is looking at that same living room and saying "hey, you know what... I love all of the colors in this room, but it works better as a kitchen'. Maybe you have a perfectly functioning kitchen somewhere else... but you just tore out the floors, placed fixtures, etc. to make this new room work. Maybe you needed that kitchen all along, but that 2e couch was highly comfortable, has a good ass-groove, things are working for it. And that 1e lamp was beautiful even if less technologically 'advanced' than that nice 3e sound system (a whole lot of noise and OOMPH, but only as good as you put into it). Wow... I should stop making rants while hungry and jobless. My stomach itches from eating wallpaper paste. ________________________ Okay, on D&D's popularity and arguments over editions: What popular product which changes doesn't have holdouts and arguments? Who here likes classic cars? Who likes to get the new sleek models? PC Users: Who enjoys using Vista? How about XP? Yeah, apparently Cthulu isn't as popular as Dungeons and Dragons. And on a site which has the heading of ENWorld D&D/RPG News there are people arguing about D&D over other RPGs. Popularity breeds a larger player base, which breeds more contempt in change, and makes change more difficult. You belong to the early adopters of a system which most likely 80% of the gaming population will turn over/be playing a year from now. So suffer the slings and arrows of ignominy while you step over all of those who still like the old stuff. If you're able to accept that they may still like it later, there's always a spot on my couch, and we can spin some tunes. Just don't invite me over to your place... I don't want to have to sit in the kitchen sink ;). Slainte, -Loonook. [/QUOTE]
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