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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 4551138" data-attributes="member: 42582">I'm generally sympathetic to 4e and post in the defence of its&nbsp; mechanics, but not out of any desire to fight for the &quot;soul&quot; of D&amp;D. I personally don't think that there is a soul of D&amp;D - the various editions have had quite different orientations (and sometimes multiple conflicting orientations) in terms of the play that they support, and have been put to extremely varied uses by different play groups.My defence of 4e rests on a fairly simple foundation: it's a pretty coherent set of rules for a narrativist-oriented but thematically mainstream fantasy RPG. Thus it's desirable to me as a game to play. And I get irritated when people criticise 4e's rules as if narrativist gaming was impossible, or made no sense, or didn't exist before 4e was published. Those who simply want a different set of rules (mostly, critics seem to want a more simulationist rules set) I have no quarrel with - fortunately for me, unfortunately for them, WoTC went with&nbsp; my preferences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 4551138, member: 42582"] I'm generally sympathetic to 4e and post in the defence of its mechanics, but not out of any desire to fight for the "soul" of D&D. I personally don't think that there is a soul of D&D - the various editions have had quite different orientations (and sometimes multiple conflicting orientations) in terms of the play that they support, and have been put to extremely varied uses by different play groups. My defence of 4e rests on a fairly simple foundation: it's a pretty coherent set of rules for a narrativist-oriented but thematically mainstream fantasy RPG. Thus it's desirable to me as a game to play. And I get irritated when people criticise 4e's rules as if narrativist gaming was impossible, or made no sense, or didn't exist before 4e was published. Those who simply want a different set of rules (mostly, critics seem to want a more simulationist rules set) I have no quarrel with - fortunately for me, unfortunately for them, WoTC went with my preferences. [/QUOTE]

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