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<blockquote data-quote="phloog" data-source="post: 4553120" data-attributes="member: 59219">I think that the proper way to apply any apples/oranges analogy is this:&nbsp;&quot;I don't like apples, and yet WOTC has begun making apples where before they were making oranges.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;In addition, despite the fact that they are now clearly producing apples, they have chosen to continue to label the crates &quot;Oranges&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp;I will agree that specifics are always better than just 'it doesn't feel like X edition', but I guess I'm not sure how you discuss what you don't like about a newer version of a product without at least the possibiity of discussing what you liked about the old version.&nbsp; To continue to use your fruit analogy but in support of your desire for specifics: perhaps you prefer the color orange, or the lack of a bitter core, or you like the smell of oranges.&nbsp; So I can see a reason to call for specifics.&nbsp; I don't like (for example) the ramped up first level power, the combat focus of ALL classes, the increased emphasis on tactical boardplay, etc.&nbsp;And of course many wouldn't feel so strongly about any of this if WOTC had not tried to force everyone to produce apples and stop providing oranges, using their market share and resources to convince everyone that apples are indeed the only fruit worth having.&nbsp; If anyone chooses to provide apples, they are legally required to stop producing oranges...that's bound to upset people....&nbsp;...and can lead to scurvy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phloog, post: 4553120, member: 59219"] I think that the proper way to apply any apples/oranges analogy is this: "I don't like apples, and yet WOTC has begun making apples where before they were making oranges." In addition, despite the fact that they are now clearly producing apples, they have chosen to continue to label the crates "Oranges". I will agree that specifics are always better than just 'it doesn't feel like X edition', but I guess I'm not sure how you discuss what you don't like about a newer version of a product without at least the possibiity of discussing what you liked about the old version. To continue to use your fruit analogy but in support of your desire for specifics: perhaps you prefer the color orange, or the lack of a bitter core, or you like the smell of oranges. So I can see a reason to call for specifics. I don't like (for example) the ramped up first level power, the combat focus of ALL classes, the increased emphasis on tactical boardplay, etc. And of course many wouldn't feel so strongly about any of this if WOTC had not tried to force everyone to produce apples and stop providing oranges, using their market share and resources to convince everyone that apples are indeed the only fruit worth having. If anyone chooses to provide apples, they are legally required to stop producing oranges...that's bound to upset people.... ...and can lead to scurvy. [/QUOTE]

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